Re: Re: Find Crash

Ryan Waldon <[email protected]> Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:26:07 -0800 (PST)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.handhelds.palm.iconmgr
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Have you given FindHack a try?

http://www.florentpillet.com/findhack.html

--ryan



--- Chris Antos <[email protected]> wrote:

> Again, due to how the Find function actually works
> on Palm devices, it is probably misleading you to
> think an innocent app is crashing.
> 
> Here is an entry from the HandyShopper Frequently
> Asked Questions, which applies to both HandyShopper
> and Icon Manager.  Also, sometimes people suggest to
> use FindTester to see which application is crashing.
>  But actually FindTester does not work on OS5
> devices -- FindTester itself will crash and/or give
> an erroneous report.  The way that FindTester tries
> to do stuff only works on OS4 and lower, and is
> explicitly incompatible with OS5.
> 
> 31. Why does HandyShopper crash when I use the
> global Find command on my device? 
> 
>   a.. The odds are a few thousand to one that
> actually it is some other app that is crashing. Here
> is a brief explanation of why that happens and what
> to do about it. 
>   b.. Why: Due to how the Palm OS works, it's a
> common newbie Palm programming mistake to have
> crashing bugs in an app when a global Find happens.
> People usually assume that the last app name shown
> is the one that crashed. But in fact what happens is
> that improperly written apps crash immediately when
> the Palm OS notifies them that the user is doing a
> Find. Each app is responsible to draw its name, so
> the fact that an app's name got drawn means it did
> not crash immediately, and therefore most likely did
> not crash at all -- instead it was whatever app came
> next that actually crashed. 
>   c.. What to do: If you installed other apps
> recently, try removing them in groups. If the Find
> starts working after you remove a particular group,
> then you can reinstall the suspect apps one at a
> time until Find starts crashing again, and then you
> will have found which app is causing the crash. You
> can also try backing up all your HandyShopper data
> and then removing HandyShopper from the device, and
> verify that the global Find still crashes even
> without HandyShopper on the device, in which case
> you can at least rule out HandyShopper as the cause.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: puntoyaparteconsultores 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:10 PM
>   Subject: [IconMgr] Re: Find Crash
> 
> 
>   Thanks for answer but my device is a treo 650 and
> i dont know its have the same 
>   problems than a t5
>   mac
> 
>   --- In [email protected], "Steve"
> <kunkel321@...> wrote:
>   >
>   > --- In [email protected], "jeffmdehart"
> <jmdehart@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Has anyone had a problem with the TX or T5
> crashing when using the
>   > > Find funtion? I have been trying to find the
> problem for a while. It
>   > > went away when I removed icon manager. I
> vaugly remember a message
>   > > when first syncing the new device that icon
> manager would have
>   > > problems with the device.
>   > > 
>   > > Is there a memory architecture issue? 
>   > > 
>   > > Is there a fix?
>   > > 
>   > > Jeff
>   > >
>   > 
>   > Have not seen this with my T5. If your's is an
> older T5, make sure 
>   > you've installed the free T5 Updater 1.1 from
> the Palm website. tI 
>   > hink it's very unlikely that this will be your
> problem, but if you have 
>   > a really large icon set that you're working on
> in RAM, then you try to 
>   > activate the find feature, the T5 may not be
> able to transfer things 
>   > back to the Flash (NV) memory fast enough before
> accessing all the 
>   > other stuff it wants to search. This can cause a
> crash and is a 
>   > problem inherent in the newer NVFS Palms...
> Though I'm not enough of an 
>   > expert to say for sure if this is likely to
> happen when using 
>   > IconMgr ... Maybe Chris or another member can
> expand further... At any 
>   > rate you can check to see if your Palm has the
> update... google "T5 
>   > updater" or such.
>   >
> 
> 
> 
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