Re: Retro tech

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So far, I've bought the Life Drive, Clie NR70 and NX70, a Zire72, a second =
Zire71 and a M130. I'm considering a Handspring and a Palm V. I'm trying to=
 pick devices that were popular or different. And I can use the excuse of w=
riting about it to justify it. When you read the old reviews, they compare =
it to the new devices at that time. I try to write about useful features an=
d possible uses today. I'll have to write about syncing to modern computers=
 too, which has been interesting. I ran into the 64 bit driver issue with W=
indows 7 and I still don't see things show up up that Palm desktop. But eve=
rything syncs with my G4 iBooks!

I was able to get the Life Drive online and the browser isn't bad. But you =
wind up comparing it to modern devices. It all may be a pointless experienc=
e but I am enjoying it. It reminds me about the things I originally liked a=
bout Palms in the first place.=20=20

=E2=80=9CThrow out the radio and take the fiddle down from the wall.=E2=80=
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=E2=80=94 Andrew Nelson Lytle, Tennessee, 1930

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 7:14 PM, dmccunney [email protected] [peditor=
s] <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 7:55 PM, Teresa Wells [email protected]
> [peditors] <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I find some of these devices interesting. And I also thinking that sync=
ing with Outlook has been the death of more than one company :)
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> I found it quirky but useful. I used Outlook at home as well as at
> the office, for compatibility, and because I needed better mail
> handling capabilities than things like Outlook Express offered. (I
> got, and still get, a lot of email, and needed filtering more
> sophistacted than IF <condition> DO <action> to properly classify it.)
> Outlook at the office was used for the shared calendar as well as
> email, and we lived in it at employers.
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> I made it a reflex to add anyone I was likely to communicate with
> *again* to my Outlook Contacts folder, and that got hot-synced to teh
> PDA as the basis for the Address Book. I hot-synced in both
> locations, so any entry added in one place got added to teh other next
> hot-sync, and I had redundancy because my contacts list resided in
> three different locations.
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> > I don't trust this Life Drive at all. First one I bought never got past=
 the boot screen. I replaced the battery, put in a formatted CF card but no=
thing worked. Got a second one on Ebay. The guy bricked it trying to do a h=
ard reset and canceled the sale. The one I bought after that does work so I=
 can see what it would have been. It was designed to be for business custom=
ers. I see it as a great multimedia machine, with lots of room for books an=
d music. Too bad the hardware sucked.
>=20
> The Life Drive was an interesting idea. I knew a couple of folks back
> in the day who replaced the hard drive with a CF card and were
> delighted with the increased performance and reliability. (Things
> with moving parts break, so replacing a spinning platter drive wish a
> flash memory based card was a win.)
>=20
> > I've been buying interesting devices on Ebay and have had pretty good l=
uck with the untested ones. I see a difference in how I deal with the Palm.=
 I look something up and I'm done. There's no reason to do anything else. I=
f I were on my iPhone, I'd probably check my mail or look up something. I'm=
 enjoying spending less time on the Net.
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> <grin> One of my involvements is eBooks, and I know folks who
> deliberately bought dedicated eBook readers precisely to remove the
> temptation of doing other things while they were reading.
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> That wouldn't work for me - the dedicated devices were eInk with
> monochrome screens, and too much of what I do requires color. My
> default eBook viewer device is a 7" Android tablet, with a library on
> a microSD card.
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> But I began reading eBooks on Palm devices, using the open source
> Plucker app that could convert HTML pages to a form viewable on the
> PDA. The initial use was converting documentation I used as a
> sysadmin to a form I could carry around in my pocket, and a lot of
> stuff from Project Gutenberg and elsewhere joined it. I also
> collected an assortment of stuff in Mobipoket format I could read
> using Mobi's Palm viewer app. (Palm was the first platform Mobipocket
> targeted when they began as an early eBook publisher. Amazon bought
> them years back and used the Mobi format for their Kindle offerings)
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> What other sorts of things have you bought on eBay?
>=20
> > (And I probably should have written my post under [email protected]=
m. I still haven't gotten around to officially changing my name yet.)
>=20
> So noted, but we got it.
> ______
> Dennis
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So far, I've bought the Life Drive, Clie NR70 and NX70, a Zire72, a second =
Zire71 and a M130. I'm considering a Handspring and a Palm V. I'm trying to=
 pick devices that were popular or different. And I can use the excuse of w=
riting about it to justify it. When you read the old reviews, they compare =
it to the new devices at that time. I try to write about useful features an=
d possible uses today. I'll have to write about syncing to modern computers=
 too, which has been interesting. I ran into the 64 bit driver issue with W=
indows 7 and I still don't see things show up up that Palm desktop. But eve=
rything syncs with my G4 iBooks!<div><br></div><div>I was able to get the L=
ife Drive online and the browser isn't bad. But you wind up comparing it to=
 modern devices. It all may be a pointless experience but I am enjoying it.=
 It reminds me about the things I originally liked about Palms in the first=
 place. &nbsp;<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><div>=E2=80=9CThrow ou=
t the radio and take the fiddle down from the wall.=E2=80=9D</div>
	<div>=E2=80=94 Andrew Nelson Lytle, Tennessee, 1930</div></div><div><br>On=
 Sep 25, 2018, at 7:14 PM, dmccunney <a href=3D"mailto:dennis.mccunney@gmai=
l.com">[email protected]</a> [peditors] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pedit=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><=
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      <p>On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 7:55 PM, Teresa Wells <a href=3D"mailto:tw=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br>
[peditors] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">peditors@yahoogr=
oups.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I find some of these devices interesting. And I also thinking that syn=
cing with Outlook has been the death of more than one company :)<br>
<br>
I found it quirky but useful.  I used Outlook at home as well as at<br>
the office, for compatibility, and because I needed better mail<br>
handling capabilities than things like Outlook Express offered.  (I<br>
got, and still get, a lot of email, and needed filtering more<br>
sophistacted than IF &lt;condition&gt; DO &lt;action&gt; to properly classi=
fy it.)<br>
Outlook at the office was used for the shared calendar as well as<br>
email, and we lived in it at employers.<br>
<br>
I made it a reflex to add anyone I was likely to communicate with<br>
*again* to my Outlook Contacts folder, and that got hot-synced to teh<br>
PDA as the basis for the Address Book.  I hot-synced in both<br>
locations, so any entry added in one place got added to teh other next<br>
hot-sync, and I had redundancy because my contacts list resided in<br>
three different locations.<br>
<br>
&gt; I don't trust this Life Drive at all. First one I bought never got pas=
t the boot screen. I replaced the battery, put in a formatted CF card but n=
othing worked. Got a second one on Ebay. The guy bricked it trying to do a =
hard reset and canceled the sale. The one I bought after that does work so =
I can see what it would have been. It was designed to be for business custo=
mers. I see it as a great multimedia machine, with lots of room for books a=
nd music. Too bad the hardware sucked.<br>
<br>
The Life Drive was an interesting idea.  I knew a couple of folks back<br>
in the day who replaced the hard drive with a CF card and were<br>
delighted with the increased performance and reliability.  (Things<br>
with moving parts break, so replacing a spinning platter drive wish a<br>
flash memory based card was a win.)<br>
<br>
&gt; I've been buying interesting devices on Ebay and have had pretty good =
luck with the untested ones. I see a difference in how I deal with the Palm=
.. I look something up and I'm done. There's no reason to do anything else. =
If I were on my iPhone, I'd probably check my mail or look up something. I'=
m enjoying spending less time on the Net.<br>
<br>
&lt;grin&gt;  One of my involvements is eBooks, and I know folks who<br>
deliberately bought dedicated eBook readers precisely to remove the<br>
temptation of doing other things while they were reading.<br>
<br>
That wouldn't work for me - the dedicated devices were eInk with<br>
monochrome screens, and too much of what I do requires color.  My<br>
default eBook viewer device is a 7" Android tablet, with a library on<br>
a microSD card.<br>
<br>
But I began reading eBooks on Palm devices, using the open source<br>
Plucker app that could convert HTML pages to a form viewable on the<br>
PDA.  The initial use was converting documentation I used  as a<br>
sysadmin to a form I could carry around in my pocket, and a lot of<br>
stuff from Project Gutenberg and elsewhere joined it.  I also<br>
collected an assortment of stuff in Mobipoket format I could read<br>
using Mobi's Palm viewer app. (Palm was the first platform Mobipocket<br>
targeted when they began as an early eBook publisher. Amazon bought<br>
them years back and used the Mobi format for their Kindle offerings)<br>
<br>
What other sorts of things have you bought on eBay?<br>
<br>
&gt; (And I probably should have written my post under <a href=3D"mailto:te=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>. I still haven't gotten ar=
ound to officially changing my name yet.)<br>
<br>
So noted, but we got it.<br>
______<br>
Dennis<br>
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