Re: Digest Number 737

Hi Victor,

I sent you the first batch of files for the Spanish translation, I need to 
gather together the current PDesk translation files now...

Can you please check to make sure that Progect is not already translated 
to Spanish? It will be available on SourceForge under a *all languages* 
type option...

Thanks
Rick



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   Big whorls have little whorls,
   Which feed on their velocity;
   And little whorls have lesser whorls,
   And so on to viscosity.

   Lewis Richardson


On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Victor Kane wrote:

> Hi there!
>
> I recently acquired a Palm and have been using this
> great piece of software (Progect/Pdesk tandem). So I
> would like to make a contribution to the general
> effort, by translating to Spanish the resources (I
> notice there is French and Portuguese but no Spanish
> option).
> I have written separately to Rick so he can send me
> the files.
>
> saludos!
>
> Victor Kane
> Buenos Aires,
> Argentina
>
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>>       1. Re: PDesk rewrite back on track
>>            From: Bjoern Sjut <[email protected]>
>>       2. RE: PDesk rewrite back on track
>>            From: Rick Price <[email protected]>
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>>    Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:56:27 +0200
>>    From: Bjoern Sjut <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: PDesk rewrite back on track
>>
>> Becker, Christian schrieb:
>>> Rick,
>>>
>>> not sure what language is Bjoen's. But if you
>> cannot find someone for
>>> German, i offer to take that translation port.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm German, too - but currently I'm totally
>> overwhelmed with work - so
>> if Christian could give it a shot, I'd be more than
>> happy!
>>
>> Best, Bjoern
>>
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>>    Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:17:07 -0400 (EDT)
>>    From: Rick Price <[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: PDesk rewrite back on track
>>
>> Hi Christian,
>>
>> Can you send me your personal email to
>> [email protected],
>> and I will send you the files I need translated?
>>
>> There is not much to translate yet, but it will grow
>> as I get that part
>> taken care of.
>>
>> My focus for the next few days will be making sure
>> that things *can* be
>> internationalized before I do something that can't
>> be undone.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rick
>>
>>
>>
>> [=============================]
>>
>>    Big whorls have little whorls,
>>    Which feed on their velocity;
>>    And little whorls have lesser whorls,
>>    And so on to viscosity.
>>
>>    Lewis Richardson
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Becker, Christian wrote:
>>
>>> Rick,
>>>
>>> not sure what language is Bjoen's. But if you
>> cannot find someone for
>>> German, i offer to take that translation port.
>>>
>>> Take care!
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> Rick Price
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:35 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [progect] PDesk rewrite back on
>> track
>>>>
>>>> BTW Bjoern,
>>>>
>>>> Can I rope you into doing some translation duties
>> for the new PDesk?
>>>>
>>>> What I am writing specifically is a framework to
>> edit
>>>> outlines of pretty much any form, and PDesk would
>> be one of
>>>> those types it could edit...
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I need to make sure that I can handle
>>>> internationalization before I get too much
>> farther...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You will have to forgive the rest, it's not
>> really organized
>>>> that well...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So this is basically how it works...
>>>>
>>>> There are plugins at a high level to handle
>> various file
>>>> types, PDesk's
>>>> (new XML) file format would be one of them. There
>> could be other file
>>>> type plugins to handle other sorts of outlines.
>>>>
>>>> Then, inside the PDesk plugin it has sub-plugins
>> that handle
>>>> each sort of
>>>> item that you can have inside PDesk, so there
>> would be one
>>>> for a task, one
>>>> for an info type and so on, including say new
>> ones like pictures.
>>>>
>>>> I did that so that people other than me could
>> write plugins
>>>> to extend the
>>>> PDesk file format for things like pictures and
>> whatever else
>>>> makes people
>>>> happy.
>>>>
>>>> The rewritten Progect would also have plugins :),
>> that way
>>>> people could
>>>> write plugins for it to handle the new PDesk
>> types...
>>>>
>>>> Another goal would be that each language could
>> reformat the screens
>>>> whatever way they saw fit. This should fix some
>> of the
>>>> problems we had
>>>> with Progect, where the formatting was simply not
>> working.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I need, is to make sure that three things
>> are
>>>> internationalizable:
>>>>
>>>> 1) The outliner framework application
>>>> 2) The plugins for things like PDesk file formats
>>>> 3) The sub-plugins that the PDesk file format
>> uses
>>>>
>>>> I have started to make the #3 plugins
>> internationalizable and
>>>> will have to
>>>> work on the rest of the numbered points.
>>>>
>>>> So I was wondering if I could send you an example
>> resource file to
>>>> translate. But I was also wondering if you could
>> try things
>>>> out and make
>>>> sure things work for you at a language level by
>> running the new
>>>> application.
>>>>
>>>> The resource file will be a custom format in XML
>> that I use
>>>> with some XSLT
>>>> stylesheets that convert the custom format into a
>> wxWidgets
>>>> compatible xrc
>>>> file format.
>>>>
>>>> This seriously simplifies creating the screens
>> for the plugins.
>>>>
>>>> The custom file format is designed to be as
>> simple to edit by hand as
>>>> possible.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think I have the format documented
>> anywhere, but we
>>>> can talk if
>>>> you are having issues.
>>>>
>>>> This is just the beginning so you would have both
>> input and
>>>> frustration
>>>> :).
>>>>
>>>> Are you available?
>>>>
>>>> If so, I will send you an example plugin screen
>> file to translate.
>>>>
>>>> And then, shortly after I would have to send you
>> the Python
>>>> files to run
>>>> the new PDesk and so on.
>>>>
>>>> I don't really see this consuming a lot of your
>> time, there
>>>> aren't that
>>>> many screens yet, and we mostly have to prove we
>> *can* translate it
>>>> without a huge amount of grief than do the whole
>> application at this
>>>> point.
>>>>
>>>> Have Fun
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [=============================]
>>>>
>>>>    Big whorls have little whorls,
>>>>    Which feed on their velocity;
>>>>    And little whorls have lesser whorls,
>>>>    And so on to viscosity.
>>>>
>>>>    Lewis Richardson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Bjoern Sjut wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rick Price schrieb:
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since I assume there is a general interest in
>> the health
>>>> of the project...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just thought I would mention that I have
>> solved the problems that
>>>>>> derailed the PDesk rewrite and things are back
>> on track again...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations, Rick!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's good to hear that the project is still
>> breathing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best, Bjoern
>>>>>
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>>>>> http://www.wordworkers.de/
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