any updates on N810 & Garnet VM?

I would be interested in any updates Ken and Griff (and others) may
have on using Shadow (and other Palm apps) with the N810 and Garnet
VM.  Beta 2 was released in May - was this a noticeable improvement?
Thanks,
Shawn

--- In [email protected], "Griff" <lists@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Ken Latham
> >>
> >>Sorry to hear you are disappointed.  I'm afraid I'm one of those
> >>people who research things beyond all rational constraints before
> >>spending any amount greater than $50.
> >>
> >>Ergo, I knew that the main functions of the N810 are exactly:  Media,
> >>and Internet.
> 
> I usually am but for some reason this one snuck by me.  I knew what the
> strengths of the N810 were but I guess I didn't realize what its
weaknesses
> would be. I know the platform will only improve as more and more
developers
> work on applications and heck I realize I could even develop something
> myself if I really wanted to. 
> 
> >>By the way, have you gotten the upgrade for OS2008?  It immediately
> >>increased the number of installable apps (in the app manager) by about
> >>4-fold.  (do a backup first!)
> 
> Yes, I did do the OS2008 upgrade about a day after I received my N810.
> 
> >>The Access VM is a "beta" after all.  And yes, betas can be a pain.
> >>"Putting a beta into production is bad management" ... words to live
> >>by.  I hate to be critical, but I think you were pinning too much hope
> >>on something you had not tested yet.
> 
> Oh I agree completely.  I was putting hope into an open source platform
> being able to replace my Palm.  To be honest my Palm hasn't been
seeing much
> production lately and I was putting hope into the N810 reviving my
interest
> in being organized.  Obviously not the best of plans but it was a plan.
> 
> >>Sorry, knew that too.  Though it is $130 for a 3 year subscription, so
> >>its not all that expensive.  I do also have a data plan on my phone,
> >>and I checked that my phone (and carrier) supported DUN connection
> >>with bluetooth to the phone (so I have portable internet).
> 
> Yeah...but I could just go buy a GPS for $199 and it would never
expire.  If
> there were no expiration date I'd be more likely to plunk down even more
> money. 
> 
> I do have data on my phone but just haven't taken the time to get things
> working.  I hear it can be a pain tethering a Blackjack with WinMo6
to the
> thing but I should at least try it. 
> 
> Did you plunk down the money or are you using MaemoMapper?
> 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I'd bought the N810 to replace my TX, give me GPS, and work as an
> >>iPod Touch
> >>> would for flights.
> >>>
> >>> It does none of that well.  In fact I've started to realize how good
> >>the TX
> >>> really is for basic life management and e-mail.
> >>
> >>I'm afraid I have to agree with you, return it if you can.  It is
> >>certainly not ready to replace any Palm device you use "in
> >>production".  Not for what most people use a Palm for!  It *might be*,
> >>with in a year, when more apps get ported/tested properly.
> 
> Not sure I'm ready to return it. ;-)  It is pretty nice to be able
to surf
> ITT and chat while curled up in bed watching tv.  I also believe it WILL
> wind up doing the things well given time.  For example I think
Canola is a
> good media app.  I think once I tether with my BJ I'll be able to
use GPS.
> Really all that will be lacking then are decent PIMs and I have to
belive
> some will come out even if I have to go back to programming
school...which
> leads to...
> 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Now if CESD and Jeff would both port their applications to Maemo I'd
> >>be much
> >>> happier.
> >>> </rant>
> >>
> >>OK, now you've gone too far! ;)
> >>Are you trying to get us both lynched by the group for taking Jeff's
> >>time for the Access VM! :O :D
> 
> You misunderstand.  I don't want Jeff to worry about the Access VM...nor
> CESD.  What I want is for both of them to port the actual code to Maemo.
> What I want is for CESD to create his own databases and for Jeff and
him to
> communicate so Shadow can use those same databases.  I have no
interest in
> the Access VM at the moment. 
> 
> >>I only posted the first time to see if anyone was interested in my
> >>tinkerings ... and I know that is all they are at this point.  Though
> >>I hope to give Access some useful feedback, if they'll listen.
> 
> Well I'm interested!
> 
> >>
> >>And sure I'll post back here (and probably in the DateBk group) if I
> >>start to have moderate (any) success.
> >>
> 
> Have you gotten the saved views diamond to work?
>