Re: any updates on N810 & Garnet VM?

I'm afraid my motivation to make this work faded with a change in
positions where I work ... not nearly so many meetings, and thus not
nearly so great a need for Shadow as I once had.  I have the beta
installed, but that's as far as I got.

I've been promising myself to get DateBk6 working under Garnet VM for
a while now ... but the necessity of keeping the VM running at all
times to get alarms kinda takes the wind out of that one.

To be brutally honest, I'm keeping a close eye on the porting of full
fledged Debian to the N810 ... and the fact that the "N900" will have
3G.  The combination of those two really opens the horizons.

Ken 

The G1 one looks nice ... but doesn't replace the N810 ... though I
keep telling myself "I can make that work" ... mostly as an excuse to
get a new toy. ;)

--- In [email protected], "shawn_engelland"
<shawn.engelland@...> wrote:
>
> I would be interested in any updates Ken and Griff (and others) may
> have on using Shadow (and other Palm apps) with the N810 and Garnet
> VM.  Beta 2 was released in May - was this a noticeable improvement?
> Thanks,
> Shawn
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Griff" <lists@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Ken Latham
> > >>
> > >>Sorry to hear you are disappointed.  I'm afraid I'm one of those
> > >>people who research things beyond all rational constraints before
> > >>spending any amount greater than $50.
> > >>
> > >>Ergo, I knew that the main functions of the N810 are exactly: 
Media,
> > >>and Internet.
> > 
> > I usually am but for some reason this one snuck by me.  I knew
what the
> > strengths of the N810 were but I guess I didn't realize what its
> weaknesses
> > would be. I know the platform will only improve as more and more
> developers
> > work on applications and heck I realize I could even develop something
> > myself if I really wanted to. 
> > 
> > >>By the way, have you gotten the upgrade for OS2008?  It immediately
> > >>increased the number of installable apps (in the app manager) by
about
> > >>4-fold.  (do a backup first!)
> > 
> > Yes, I did do the OS2008 upgrade about a day after I received my N810.
> > 
> > >>The Access VM is a "beta" after all.  And yes, betas can be a pain.
> > >>"Putting a beta into production is bad management" ... words to live
> > >>by.  I hate to be critical, but I think you were pinning too
much hope
> > >>on something you had not tested yet.
> > 
> > Oh I agree completely.  I was putting hope into an open source
platform
> > being able to replace my Palm.  To be honest my Palm hasn't been
> seeing much
> > production lately and I was putting hope into the N810 reviving my
> interest
> > in being organized.  Obviously not the best of plans but it was a
plan.
> > 
> > >>Sorry, knew that too.  Though it is $130 for a 3 year
subscription, so
> > >>its not all that expensive.  I do also have a data plan on my phone,
> > >>and I checked that my phone (and carrier) supported DUN connection
> > >>with bluetooth to the phone (so I have portable internet).
> > 
> > Yeah...but I could just go buy a GPS for $199 and it would never
> expire.  If
> > there were no expiration date I'd be more likely to plunk down
even more
> > money. 
> > 
> > I do have data on my phone but just haven't taken the time to get
things
> > working.  I hear it can be a pain tethering a Blackjack with WinMo6
> to the
> > thing but I should at least try it. 
> > 
> > Did you plunk down the money or are you using MaemoMapper?
> > 
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd bought the N810 to replace my TX, give me GPS, and work as an
> > >>iPod Touch
> > >>> would for flights.
> > >>>
> > >>> It does none of that well.  In fact I've started to realize
how good
> > >>the TX
> > >>> really is for basic life management and e-mail.
> > >>
> > >>I'm afraid I have to agree with you, return it if you can.  It is
> > >>certainly not ready to replace any Palm device you use "in
> > >>production".  Not for what most people use a Palm for!  It
*might be*,
> > >>with in a year, when more apps get ported/tested properly.
> > 
> > Not sure I'm ready to return it. ;-)  It is pretty nice to be able
> to surf
> > ITT and chat while curled up in bed watching tv.  I also believe
it WILL
> > wind up doing the things well given time.  For example I think
> Canola is a
> > good media app.  I think once I tether with my BJ I'll be able to
> use GPS.
> > Really all that will be lacking then are decent PIMs and I have to
> belive
> > some will come out even if I have to go back to programming
> school...which
> > leads to...
> > 
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Now if CESD and Jeff would both port their applications to
Maemo I'd
> > >>be much
> > >>> happier.
> > >>> </rant>
> > >>
> > >>OK, now you've gone too far! ;)
> > >>Are you trying to get us both lynched by the group for taking Jeff's
> > >>time for the Access VM! :O :D
> > 
> > You misunderstand.  I don't want Jeff to worry about the Access
VM...nor
> > CESD.  What I want is for both of them to port the actual code to
Maemo.
> > What I want is for CESD to create his own databases and for Jeff and
> him to
> > communicate so Shadow can use those same databases.  I have no
> interest in
> > the Access VM at the moment. 
> > 
> > >>I only posted the first time to see if anyone was interested in my
> > >>tinkerings ... and I know that is all they are at this point. 
Though
> > >>I hope to give Access some useful feedback, if they'll listen.
> > 
> > Well I'm interested!
> > 
> > >>
> > >>And sure I'll post back here (and probably in the DateBk group) if I
> > >>start to have moderate (any) success.
> > >>
> > 
> > Have you gotten the saved views diamond to work?
> >
>