Re: Re: Anyone still here?
"skeezix [email protected] [SHADOW-DISCUSS]" <[email protected]> Sat, 3 Dec 2016 20:44:39 -0500 (EST)
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--7wGVc3AOpWjFi1nOc6h7r-YxZikzXmyfgF9HJIg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 3 Dec 2016, Neil Slater [email protected] [SHADOW-DISCUSS] wrote: # I had not heard of Style Tap before today. Went looking for it and couldn't find it in the Apple Store, so I used Google to find out that it is retired # and no longer available, is no longer being updated, and support is also no longer available. :( Doh! Maybe I shoudl go bug them .. I'll bring it up next time I run into the guys, probably around Christmas or so :) Theres bi demand.. 2 or 3 people at least! # I get why you haven't done an iPad or android app, Jeff, but seriously, have YOU found anything out there to replace Shadow??? Free apps are worth every # penny; low-cost apps are one step from useless, and I haven't bothered with the high-priced ones, 'cause they're probably no better. Well, back a month or two ago when I started stirring it up, it was an experiment; obviously there is some interest, yet the conversation died just as fast as it started.. Right now, I'm being beaten up good in RL work (essentially startup mode for a large fragmented organization) .. I barely have a free moment at all. If I can get some free time again, I might well consider it; its a very bad market though .. saturdated, full of impenetrable fluff, and a few 'good' apps.. that are 'good enough' for those that are looking. I would be deluding myself to think I could invest enough time to come up with an Even Better app just like that, and that it would have a chance .. ie: even if it was really good, it'd have to climb uphill through 500 $0.05 apps just to be seen. Its a very poor store design, that stacks it against fresh blood. But, I might make a 'crappy scrappy' app, just for fun, you see, to see where it goes. Because yeah, nothing out there right now satisfies me :) But the trick is still.. what to deliver? A straight up flexible task-app? one with item to item relations? or more a Hypercard database type app with screens and columns and so on? or a half-datebook and half-todo app? I don't have a flare for swooshy, I'm a performance guy... # I swear, dude, if I win big on the Lotto, I'm gonna hunt you down and wave enough cash under your nose to get you and Shadow Plan into the iOS world. # Would two million do it? Thats neary enough rum ;) jeff -- If everyone would put barbecue sauce on their food, there would be no war. --7wGVc3AOpWjFi1nOc6h7r-YxZikzXmyfgF9HJIg Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>On Sat, 3 Dec 2016, Neil Slater [email protected] [SHADOW-DISCUSS] wrote:<br> <br> # I had not heard of Style Tap before today. Went looking for it and couldn't find it in the Apple Store, so I used Google to find out that it is retired<br> # and no longer available, is no longer being updated, and support is also no longer available. :(<br> <br> Doh! Maybe I shoudl go bug them .. I'll bring it up next time I <br> run into the guys, probably around Christmas or so :) Theres bi demand.. 2 <br> or 3 people at least!<br> <br> # I get why you haven't done an iPad or android app, Jeff, but seriously, have YOU found anything out there to replace Shadow??? Free apps are worth every<br> # penny; low-cost apps are one step from useless, and I haven't bothered with the high-priced ones, 'cause they're probably no better.<br> <br> Well, back a month or two ago when I started stirring it up, it <br> was an experiment; obviously there is some interest, yet the conversation <br> died just as fast as it started..<br> <br> Right now, I'm being beaten up good in RL work (essentially <br> startup mode for a large fragmented organization) .. I barely have a free <br> moment at all.<br> <br> If I can get some free time again, I might well consider it; its a <br> very bad market though .. saturdated, full of impenetrable fluff, and a <br> few 'good' apps.. that are 'good enough' for those that are looking. I <br> would be deluding myself to think I could invest enough time to come up <br> with an Even Better app just like that, and that it would have a chance .. <br> ie: even if it was really good, it'd have to climb uphill through 500 <br> $0.05 apps just to be seen. Its a very poor store design, that stacks it <br> against fresh blood.<br> <br> But, I might make a 'crappy scrappy' app, just for fun, you see, <br> to see where it goes.<br> <br> Because yeah, nothing out there right now satisfies me :)<br> <br> But the trick is still.. what to deliver? A straight up flexible <br> task-app? one with item to item relations? or more a Hypercard database <br> type app with screens and columns and so on? or a half-datebook and <br> half-todo app? I don't have a flare for swooshy, I'm a performance guy...<br> <br> # I swear, dude, if I win big on the Lotto, I'm gonna hunt you down and wave enough cash under your nose to get you and Shadow Plan into the iOS world.<br> # Would two million do it?<br> <br> Thats neary enough rum ;)<br> <br> jeff<br> <br> --<br> If everyone would put barbecue sauce on their food, there would be no war.<br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <div id="fromDMARC" style="margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: skeezix <[email protected]> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> </div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=4px style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: #2D50FD;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD" href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SHADOW-DISCUSS/conversations/messages/25410;_ylc=X3oDMTJxaWYxMTJ2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BG1zZ0lkAzI1NDEwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQ4MDgxNzg5NQ--?act=reply&messageNum=25410">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5BSHADOW-DISCUSS%5D%20Re%3A%20Anyone%20still%20here%3F" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;"> <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5BSHADOW-DISCUSS%5D%20Re%3A%20Anyone%20still%20here%3F" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SHADOW-DISCUSS/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZzB2aWJoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ4MDgxNzg5NQ--" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;color: #2D50FD;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SHADOW-DISCUSS/conversations/topics/25373;_ylc=X3oDMTM2NDN2Nmw2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BG1zZ0lkAzI1NDEwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ4MDgxNzg5NQR0cGNJZAMyNTM3Mw--" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (36) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div id="megaphoneModule"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> <div> <div class="stream" style="margin-bottom:10px;"> <div style="background-color:white;"> <div class="sn-img" style="display:inline;"><img name="tn_file" style="padding:0px 10px;vertical-align:top;margin-top:5px;" src="https://s.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/megaphone/1464031581_phpFA8bON" height="82" width="82"></div> <div class="mod-txt" style="display:inline-block;"> <a rel="nofollow" name="sub_url" target="_blank" href="https://yho.com/1wwmgg" style="color:#0000FF;display:block;margin-left:5px;text-decoration:none;"><span style="font-size:15px;">Have you tried the highest rated email app?</span></a> <div style="max-width:530px;padding:2px 5px;">With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. 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