| Newsgroups |
gmane.comp.handhelds.palm.shadow |
| Message-ID |
<[email protected]> |
--OVPD-Awrv0IoePRbTYqMdt7VJyh21iSODqdD0X2
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeff, I am serious about that offer. Of course, the odds aren't with me, da=
mmit, even though I do buy a ticket every couple of weeks. But with prizes =
up to $60 million, if one person wins, that's more than enough to share som=
eone who's worth it, and change a life for the better.
As for what I'd want to see, I just assume it would look and feel like our =
old friend from the Palm days. Except the digitizer wouldn't be wandering a=
round the screen. Get rid of that problem, and I'd never have bought the iP=
ad, and I would still be using my Tungsten.
Cheers,
Neil
Sent with the assistance of Morse Code, slide rule, and abacus.
Skeesix recently wrote:
Well, back a month or two ago when I started stirring it up, it=20
was an experiment; obviously there is some interest, yet the conversation=20
died just as fast as it started..
Right now, I'm being beaten up good in RL work (essentially=20
startup mode for a large fragmented organization) .. I barely have a free=20
moment at all.
If I can get some free time again, I might well consider it; its a=20
very bad market though .. saturdated, full of impenetrable fluff, and a=20
few 'good' apps.. that are 'good enough' for those that are looking. I=20
would be deluding myself to think I could invest enough time to come up=20
with an Even Better app just like that, and that it would have a chance ..=
=20
ie: even if it was really good, it'd have to climb uphill through 500=20
$0.05 apps just to be seen. Its a very poor store design, that stacks it=20
against fresh blood.
But, I might make a 'crappy scrappy' app, just for fun, you see,=20
to see where it goes.
Because yeah, nothing out there right now satisfies me :)
But the trick is still.. what to deliver? A straight up flexible=20
task-app? one with item to item relations? or more a Hypercard database=20
type app with screens and columns and so on? or a half-datebook and=20
half-todo app? I don't have a flare for swooshy, I'm a performance guy...
# I swear, dude, if I win big on the Lotto, I'm gonna hunt you down and wav=
e enough cash under your nose to get you and Shadow Plan into the iOS world=
.
# Would two million do it?
Thats neary enough rum ;)
jeff
--OVPD-Awrv0IoePRbTYqMdt7VJyh21iSODqdD0X2
Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body style="background-color: #fff;">
<span style="display:none"> </span>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~-->
<div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;">
<div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;">
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~-->
<div id="ygrp-text" >
<p>Jeff, I am serious about that offer. Of course, the odds aren't with me, dammit, even though I do buy a ticket every couple of weeks. But with prizes up to $60 million, if one person wins, that's more than enough to share someone who's worth it, and change a life for the better.<br>
<br>
As for what I'd want to see, I just assume it would look and feel like our old friend from the Palm days. Except the digitizer wouldn't be wandering around the screen. Get rid of that problem, and I'd never have bought the iPad, and I would still be using my Tungsten.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Neil<br>
<br>
Sent with the assistance of Morse Code, slide rule, and abacus.<br>
<br>
Skeesix recently wrote:<br>
<br>
Well, back a month or two ago when I started stirring it up, it <br>
was an experiment; obviously there is some interest, yet the conversation <br>
died just as fast as it started..<br>
<br>
Right now, I'm being beaten up good in RL work (essentially <br>
startup mode for a large fragmented organization) .. I barely have a free <br>
moment at all.<br>
<br>
If I can get some free time again, I might well consider it; its a <br>
very bad market though .. saturdated, full of impenetrable fluff, and a <br>
few 'good' apps.. that are 'good enough' for those that are looking. I <br>
would be deluding myself to think I could invest enough time to come up <br>
with an Even Better app just like that, and that it would have a chance .. <br>
ie: even if it was really good, it'd have to climb uphill through 500 <br>
$0.05 apps just to be seen. Its a very poor store design, that stacks it <br>
against fresh blood.<br>
<br>
But, I might make a 'crappy scrappy' app, just for fun, you see, <br>
to see where it goes.<br>
<br>
Because yeah, nothing out there right now satisfies me :)<br>
<br>
But the trick is still.. what to deliver? A straight up flexible <br>
task-app? one with item to item relations? or more a Hypercard database <br>
type app with screens and columns and so on? or a half-datebook and <br>
half-todo app? I don't have a flare for swooshy, I'm a performance guy...<br>
<br>
# I swear, dude, if I win big on the Lotto, I'm gonna hunt you down and wave enough cash under your nose to get you and Shadow Plan into the iOS world.<br>
# Would two million do it?<br>
<br>
Thats neary enough rum ;)<br>
<br>
jeff</p>
</div>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~-->
<div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div>
<div style="clear:both"> </div>
<div id="fromDMARC" style="margin-top: 10px;">
<hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;">
Posted by: Neil Slater <[email protected]> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;">
</div>
<div style="clear:both"> </div>
<table cellspacing=4px style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: #2D50FD;">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" >
<a style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD" href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SHADOW-DISCUSS/conversations/messages/25411;_ylc=X3oDMTJxbGl0MjJvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BG1zZ0lkAzI1NDExBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQ4MDkxMzA5MA--?act=reply&messageNum=25411">Reply via web post</a>
</td>
<td>•</td>
<td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" >
<a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Anyone%20still%20here%3F" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">
Reply to sender </a>
</td>
<td>•</td>
<td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;">
<a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Anyone%20still%20here%3F" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">
Reply to group </a>
</td>
<td>•</td>
<td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" >
<a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SHADOW-DISCUSS/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYnJmdWZtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ4MDkxMzA5MA--" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a>
</td>
<td>•</td>
<td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;color: #2D50FD;" >
<a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SHADOW-DISCUSS/conversations/topics/25373;_ylc=X3oDMTM2NHV1aHQyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BG1zZ0lkAzI1NDExBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ4MDkxMzA5MAR0cGNJZAMyNTM3Mw--" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a>
(37)
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<div id="megaphoneModule">
<hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;">
<div>
<div class="stream" style="margin-bottom:10px;">
<div style="background-color:white;">
<div class="sn-img" style="display:inline;"><img name="tn_file" style="padding:0px 10px;vertical-align:top;margin-top:5px;" src="https://s.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/megaphone/1464031581_phpFA8bON" height="82" width="82"></div>
<div class="mod-txt" style="display:inline-block;">
<a rel="nofollow" name="sub_url" target="_blank" href="https://yho.com/1wwmgg" style="color:#0000FF;display:block;margin-left:5px;text-decoration:none;"><span style="font-size:15px;">Have you tried the highest rated email app?</span></a>
<div style="max-width:530px;padding:2px 5px;">With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.</div>
</div>
</div>
</div> </div>
<hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;">
</div>
<!------- Start Nav Bar ------>
<!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->
<div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #f2f2f2; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;">
<span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; "><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SHADOW-DISCUSS/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGU0c3NhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTQ4MDkxMzA5MA--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a></span>
<ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;">
</ul>
</div>
<div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;">
<a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJkZG4yY203BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxNDgwOTEzMDkw" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! Groups" style="border: 0;"/></a>
<div style="color: #747575; float: right;"> • <a href="https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html" style="text-decoration: none;">Privacy</a> • <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Unsubscribe" style="text-decoration: none;">Unsubscribe</a> • <a href="https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/" style="text-decoration: none;">Terms of Use</a> </div>
</div>
<br>
<!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->
</div> <!-- ygrp-msg -->
<!-- Sponsor -->
<!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->
<div id="ygrp-sponsor" style="width:160px; float:right; clear:none; margin:0 0 25px 0; background: #fff;">
<!-- Start Recommendations -->
<div id="ygrp-reco">
</div>
<!-- End Recommendations -->
</div> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->
<div style="clear:both; color: #FFF; font-size:1px;">.</div>
</div>
<img src="http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=2644902/grpspId=1705007709/msgId=25411/stime=1480913090" width="1" height="1"> <br>
<img src="http://y.analytics.yahoo.com/fpc.pl?ywarid=515FB27823A7407E&a=10001310322279&js=no&resp=img&cf12=CP" width="1" height="1">
<div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__,_._,___</div>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~-->
</body>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~-->
<head>
<style type="text/css">
<!--
#ygrp-mkp {
border: 1px solid #d8d8d8;
font-family: Arial;
margin: 10px 0;
padding: 0 10px;
}
#ygrp-mkp hr {
border: 1px solid #d8d8d8;
}
#ygrp-mkp #hd {
color: #628c2a;
font-size: 85%;
font-weight: 700;
line-height: 122%;
margin: 10px 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp #ads {
margin-bottom: 10px;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad {
padding: 0 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad p {
margin: 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad a {
color: #0000ff;
text-decoration: none;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc {
font-family: Arial;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd {
margin: 10px 0px;
font-weight: 700;
font-size: 78%;
line-height: 122%;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad {
margin-bottom: 10px;
padding: 0 0;
}
#actions {
font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 11px;
padding: 10px 0;
}
#activity {
background-color: #e0ecee;
float: left;
font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 10px;
padding: 10px;
}
#activity span {
font-weight: 700;
}
#activity span:first-child {
text-transform: uppercase;
}
#activity span a {
color: #5085b6;
text-decoration: none;
}
#activity span span {
color: #ff7900;
}
#activity span .underline {
text-decoration: underline;
}
.attach {
clear: both;
display: table;
font-family: Arial;
font-size: 12px;
padding: 10px 0;
width: 400px;
}
.attach div a {
text-decoration: none;
}
.attach img {
border: none;
padding-right: 5px;
}
.attach label {
display: block;
margin-bottom: 5px;
}
.attach label a {
text-decoration: none;
}
blockquote {
margin: 0 0 0 4px;
}
.bold {
font-family: Arial;
font-size: 13px;
font-weight: 700;
}
.bold a {
text-decoration: none;
}
dd.last p a {
font-family: Verdana;
font-weight: 700;
}
dd.last p span {
margin-right: 10px;
font-family: Verdana;
font-weight: 700;
}
dd.last p span.yshortcuts {
margin-right: 0;
}
div.attach-table div div a {
text-decoration: none;
}
div.attach-table {
width: 400px;
}
div.file-title a, div.file-title a:active, div.file-title a:hover, div.file-title a:visited {
text-decoration: none;
}
div.photo-title a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited {
text-decoration: none;
}
div#ygrp-mlmsg #ygrp-msg p a span.yshortcuts {
font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 10px;
font-weight: normal;
}
.green {
color: #628c2a;
}
.MsoNormal {
margin: 0 0 0 0;
}
o {
font-size: 0;
}
#photos div {
float: left;
width: 72px;
}
#photos div div {
border: 1px solid #666666;
height: 62px;
overflow: hidden;
width: 62px;
}
#photos div label {
color: #666666;
font-size: 10px;
overflow: hidden;
text-align: center;
white-space: nowrap;
width: 64px;
}
#reco-category {
font-size: 77%;
}
#reco-desc {
font-size: 77%;
}
.replbq {
margin: 4px;
}
#ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {
/* border-right: 0px solid #000;*/
margin-right: 2px;
padding-right: 5px;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg {
font-size: 13px;
font-family: Arial, helvetica,clean, sans-serif;
*font-size: small;
*font: x-small;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg table {
font-size: inherit;
font: 100%;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {
font: 99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {
font:115% monospace;
*font-size:100%;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg * {
line-height: 1.22em;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg #logo {
padding-bottom: 10px;
}
#ygrp-msg p a {
font-family: Verdana;
}
#ygrp-msg p#attach-count span {
color: #1E66AE;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco #reco-head {
color: #ff7900;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco {
margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a {
font-size: 130%;
text-decoration: none;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li {
font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul {
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
}
#ygrp-text {
font-family: Georgia;
}
#ygrp-text p {
margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}
#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
border-right: none !important;
}
-->
</style>
</head>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~-->
</html>
<!-- end group email -->
--OVPD-Awrv0IoePRbTYqMdt7VJyh21iSODqdD0X2--