Re: Re: Anyone still here?
"Ray McDowell [email protected] [SHADOW-DISCUSS]" <[email protected]> Mon, 5 Dec 2016 07:36:25 +0000 (UTC)
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Hi. Has anyone besides me moved to Tiddlywiki?=20
From Wikipedia:=20
TiddlyWiki is an open-source single page application wiki in the form of a =
single HTML file that includes CSS, JavaScript, and the content. It is desi=
gned to be easy to customize and re-shape depending on application. It faci=
litates re-use of content by dividing it into small pieces called Tiddlers.
With Tiddlywiki I can create text items, checklists, folding lists and main=
tain a many to many set of relationships between items.=20
I use it for writing, cataloging, project and task management, journaling a=
nd note taking. Since it is browser based I can use in on my Windows Deskto=
p, my Ubuntu Desktop and my Android. I personally use Firefox, but I believ=
e many who use it utilize Chrome and even Safari.
Personally, I think Jeff could be a major contributor to the community if h=
e decided to take an interest. It is free, but there have been several exch=
anges over the time I've been involved with it on how to use a customized T=
iddlywiki as a paid application in the googel and apple stores. I don't kno=
w where they stand with that.=C2=A0=20
At the very least he could review it to see the possibilities such an appli=
cation could provide.
Personally, I bet dollars to donuts Jeff could take it and turn it into a p=
rettier, multi-functional cross platform piece of work that would combine t=
he poser of ShadowPlan and a Wiki-style database..
Just a thought because I keep looking for ways to use it like I did Shadowp=
lan but without any of the limitations Shadowplan had to apply given its li=
mitations because of the Palm platform.
Ray
From: "Neil Slater [email protected] [SHADOW-DISCUSS]" <SHADOW-D=
[email protected]>
To: [email protected]=20
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 12:44 PM
Subject: [SHADOW-DISCUSS] Re: Anyone still here?
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=C2=A0 Jeff, I am serious about that offer. Of course, the odds aren't wi=
th me, dammit, even though I do buy a ticket every couple of weeks. But wit=
h prizes up to $60 million, if one person wins, that's more than enough to =
share someone who's worth it, and change a life for the better.
As for what I'd want to see, I just assume it would look and feel like our =
old friend from the Palm days. Except the digitizer wouldn't be wandering a=
round the screen. Get rid of that problem, and I'd never have bought the iP=
ad, and I would still be using my Tungsten.
Cheers,
Neil
Sent with the assistance of Morse Code, slide rule, and abacus.
Skeesix recently wrote:
Well, back a month or two ago when I started stirring it up, it=20
was an experiment; obviously there is some interest, yet the conversation=20
died just as fast as it started..
Right now, I'm being beaten up good in RL work (essentially=20
startup mode for a large fragmented organization) .. I barely have a free=20
moment at all.
If I can get some free time again, I might well consider it; its a=20
very bad market though .. saturdated, full of impenetrable fluff, and a=20
few 'good' apps.. that are 'good enough' for those that are looking. I=20
would be deluding myself to think I could invest enough time to come up=20
with an Even Better app just like that, and that it would have a chance ..=
=20
ie: even if it was really good, it'd have to climb uphill through 500=20
$0.05 apps just to be seen. Its a very poor store design, that stacks it=20
against fresh blood.
But, I might make a 'crappy scrappy' app, just for fun, you see,=20
to see where it goes.
Because yeah, nothing out there right now satisfies me :)
But the trick is still.. what to deliver? A straight up flexible=20
task-app? one with item to item relations? or more a Hypercard database=20
type app with screens and columns and so on? or a half-datebook and=20
half-todo app? I don't have a flare for swooshy, I'm a performance guy...
# I swear, dude, if I win big on the Lotto, I'm gonna hunt you down and wav=
e enough cash under your nose to get you and Shadow Plan into the iOS world=
.
# Would two million do it?
Thats neary enough rum ;)
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<p><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143763">Hi. Has anyone besides me moved to Tiddlywiki? <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143762"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143761">From Wikipedia: <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143760"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_142989"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_142987"><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_142988">TiddlyWiki</b> is an open-source single page
application wiki in the form of a single HTML file that includes CSS,
JavaScript, and the content. It is designed to be easy to customize and
re-shape depending on application. It facilitates re-use of content by
dividing it into small pieces called Tiddlers.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_142936"><span></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_142930"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143158"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143504">With Tiddlywiki I can create text items, checklists, folding lists and maintain a many to many set of relationships between items. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143199"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143228">I use it for writing, cataloging, project and task management, journaling and note taking. Since it is browser based I can use in on my Windows Desktop, my Ubuntu Desktop and my Android. I personally use Firefox, but I believe many who
use it utilize Chrome and even Safari.<br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143293"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143294">Personally, I think Jeff could be a major contributor to the community if he decided to take an interest. It is free, but there have been several exchanges over the time I've been involved with it on how to use a customized Tiddlywiki as a paid application in the googel and apple stores. I don't know where they stand with that. <br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143717"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143738">At the very least he could review it to see the possibilities such an application could provide.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14808924
12098_143739"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143740">Personally, I bet dollars to donuts Jeff could take it and turn it into a
prettier, multi-functional cross platform piece of work that would combine the poser of ShadowPlan and a Wiki-style database..</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143742"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143741">Just a thought because I keep looking for ways to use it like I did Shadowplan but without any of the limitations Shadowplan had to apply given its limitations because of the Palm platform.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143781"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143782">Ray<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143783"><br></div></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_142935"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, H
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480892412098_143772">Jeff, I am serious about that offer. Of course, the odds aren't with me, dammit, even though I do buy a ticket every couple of weeks. But with prizes up to $60 million, if one person wins, that's more than enough to share someone who's worth it, and change a life for the better.<br clear="none">
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As for what I'd want to see, I just assume it would look and feel like our old friend from the Palm days. Except the digitizer wouldn't be wandering around the screen. Get rid of that problem, and I'd never have bought the iPad, and I would still be using my Tungsten.<br clear="none">
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Cheers,<br clear="none">
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Sent with the assistance of Morse Code, slide rule, and abacus.<br clear="none">
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Skeesix recently wrote:<br clear="none">
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Well, back a month or two ago when I started stirring it up, it <br clear="none">
was an experiment; obviously there is some interest, yet the conversation <br clear="none">
died just as fast as it started..<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Right now, I'm being beaten up good in RL work (essentially <br clear="none">
startup mode for a large fragmented organization) .. I barely have a free <br clear="none">
moment at all.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
If I can get some free time again, I might well consider it; its a <br clear="none">
very bad market though .. saturdated, full of impenetrable fluff, and a <br clear="none">
few 'good' apps.. that are 'good enough' for those that are looking. I <br clear="none">
would be deluding myself to think I could invest enough time to come up <br clear="none">
with an Even Better app just like that, and that it would have a chance .. <br clear="none">
ie: even if it was really good, it'd have to climb uphill through 500 <br clear="none">
$0.05 apps just to be seen. Its a very poor store design, that stacks it <br clear="none">
against fresh blood.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
But, I might make a 'crappy scrappy' app, just for fun, you see, <br clear="none">
to see where it goes.<br clear="none">
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Because yeah, nothing out there right now satisfies me :)<br clear="none">
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But the trick is still.. what to deliver? A straight up flexible <br clear="none">
task-app? one with item to item relations? or more a Hypercard database <br clear="none">
type app with screens and columns and so on? or a half-datebook and <br clear="none">
half-todo app? I don't have a flare for swooshy, I'm a performance guy...<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
# I swear, dude, if I win big on the Lotto, I'm gonna hunt you down and wave enough cash under your nose to get you and Shadow Plan into the iOS world.<br clear="none">
# Would two million do it?<br clear="none">
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Thats neary enough rum ;)<br clear="none">
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