Yanoff and MIME/international support...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gandalf_yanoff" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Hello everybody! I want to help

> --- In [email protected], "Gregg Woodcock" <woodcock@s...> wrote:
>
> > The new closed branch
>
> What does «closed» exactly mean?

See the last previous post I made; it has all the pertinent details...

> > We are in the very, very, very, VERY final stage of beta
> > and expect a release in mere days!

> Oh, well, I'm looking forward for it, then :)

You and I both; this has been essentially an entire YEAR of (part-time)
effort!

> > > I already translated in Italian two newsreaders,
> > > MicroPlanet Gravity 2.50 and 40tude Dialog
> > Those are not Palm newsreaders are they?

> No, they're both for Windows, but Italian is the same on any OS! ;)
> I believe that many Italian users on it.comp.hardware.palmari could
> be interested in an Italian version of Yanoff.

Better international support may be a 2.x release (inital release will be
2.0).

> > Why?  I don't plan on supporting MIME ever other than to strip it
out.
>
> OMG! I'd hope you're kidding, but you seem serious :)

I am (was) very serious!!!

> > MIME is, for the most part, esepecially on a mostly plain-text
> > platform, nothing but wasteful bloat. Especially for the
> > creation/posting case.

> I *had* to insert manually the MIME headers, since my messages are
> rarely in 7bit US-ASCII: Italian words use letters as àèéìòóù, and
> I also happen to need the ? character, sometimes. ISO-8859-1 would
> be enough for most words, while ? need ISO-8859-15 .

This is definitely the case of "dumb American disease" on my part...

> > What possible use could an article created on the Palm make of MIME?
>
> Apart from being RFC-compliant? :)

:>

> [See RFC2046 and draft-ietf-usefor-article-12 for example]

Will check it out...

> Anyway, I was not talking about video or music attachments... I was
> talking about *plaintext messages*, which need correct MIME headers
> to be displayed correctly 'cause they use characters not present in
> standard 7bit US-ASCII.

Did I already mention that I'm an American?

> By the way, I used Yanoff 1.5.5b2 for a few days, and its new menu,
> Locale Prefs, allowed me to choose between ASCII (i.e. no headers),
> ISO-8859-1 and ISO-8859-2. Could be enough for me :)

Is somebody doing GPL dev behind my back?  Last I checked it was 1.5.4 and
it doesn't have Locale Prefs!

> [colors]
> > If things go well, that is likely the big (and/or Hi-Res) feature
> > for the next release.
>
> Surely it will work anyway on B/W and Low-Res devices, right?

Absolutely; I'd never stab my user base in the back!

I'll tell you what.  If you will clearly document how you would like to see
MIME supported for international text, I'll do my best to implement it ASAP.
This is your BIG CHANCE to get it done *exactly* the way you want it so be
as specific as you can.  In fact, this goes for ANY feature of Yanoff
(current or missing).  Spell out for me how it should change and I'll do my
best to accommodate any/all good ideas.  I am particularly mulling over how
best to use color...


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