Re: Re: Yes. we can Dvorak.

Oh, sorry for my horrible english and, to avoid misunderstandings, With "If
we stop using alternative keyboards because all of them are a fail" I wanted
to say that they cant get famous enough, and the different kinds divide even
us... not that they aren't good (I am here, I LOVE them :D)

2009/8/4 Felipe Barros Corrêa de Oliveira <[email protected]>

> Well, I don't know about you guys, but I feel a lot more confortable typing
> in Dvorak. But, as I told in an old e-mail to this list, I can type
> perfectly in both layouts this days... at the university, I type Qwerty...
> using my mothers computer too... but, with my computer, I type Dvorak all
> the time, and It feels great for me (I type a lot in english, but most of
> the time, I type in Brazilian Portuguese, since i'm from Brazil, and it's
> still great... Brazil even has a proper Keyboard Layout based on Dvorak for
> Portuguese, but that's not the answer to our problems, we all know
> alternative layouts can't get enough fame)... I'm sure, knowing that Mr.
> Dvorak didn't and couldn't think about special split keyboards and etc,
> makes me wonder about the need to think about the new keyboard that (OH GOD,
> PLEASE) one day will make people realize this thing we're typing in is
> ridiculous, because I feel that is OUR job now, not Dvorak's... He made his
> part, the world mostly ignored it, we don't. Maybe a genious kid soon will
> think about a great gadget none of us ever thought before, and that thing
> will hit the stores all around the world, but OUR job here is not to create
> the perfect keyboard, but to discuss, to allow the human mind of the future
> to access our thoughts, our feelings about modern keyboards mistakes. If we
> just ignore it all, if we stop typing in Dvorak because it can't be famous
> enough or because it isn't perfet, if we start to use normal keyboards
> because all alternative keyboards are a fail, will be much harder for a mind
> like this of our new "keyboard prophet" to think about his creation, and
> much more for humans to check if it works. We are making a silent
> revolution, because we are giving humanity the tools to judge new things on
> the future, and it involves something that people don't give enough value
> now, but using computers and gadgets is growing in light speed, and soon the
> problems we all know will be part of the life of everyone in the world and
> they will know about our efforts. Sounds like poetry, I know, but with
> "lost"(not) causes, like ours, only passion and devotion can make things
> evolve.
> Im not criticizing you Steven, just adding my feelings.
>
> Felipe Barros
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Keith Ratliff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Regardless, I think most of us can agree that QWERTY isn't the way to go.
>> And I think a change will come but the change might be predicated by a
>> different way to type all together.
>>
>> --Keith
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 09:54, Steven Marzuola <[email protected]<marzolian%40yahoo.com>>
>> wrote:
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>> >
>> >
>> > Gregory,
>> >
>> > Sorry if this is late, I don't read the group regularly.
>> >
>> > Dvorak did some groundbreaking work and we would all be better off if
>> his
>> > layout had become more popular in the 1930's. Most of all, it was his
>> > approach to improvement.
>> >
>> > But for several reasons, his 1932 keyboard design is not popular for
>> > computer keyboards in 2009, and I predict it will remain that way.
>> >
>> > It's not just poor marketing. Here's a list of reasons why I don't use
>> it.
>> >
>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/message/3512
>> >
>> > Steven
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In [email protected] <altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com><altkeyboards%
>> 40yahoogroups.com>,
>> > "gregorystuartgordon" <gregory@...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Most of us here in the Alt keyboard forum are truly dedicated to
>> seeing
>> > to it that the user interface between man and his main machine in
>> improved,
>> > none more so than me.
>> > >
>> > > Did you know that it was estimated back in the early 1970's that
>> America
>> > alone had lost more than one trillion dollars in productivity potential
>> from
>> > the time the Dvorak keyboard was invented until then. And, that was way
>> > before personal computers became household items. My guesstimate is that
>> it
>> > hovers around a trillion dollars per year at this point in time.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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