Re: 8pen input device
Keith Ratliff <[email protected]> Mon, 9 May 2011 08:54:26 -0700
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The vid does show a "shift" located in the bottom left. --Keith On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 08:25, Giles Orr <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Someone tried a similar thing 10+ years ago on the Palm - they thought > it made more sense than writing characters in Palm's script. As with > this, you had a center spot and you swept the stylus out (in any of > eight directions instead of four) and around and back to indicate a > given letter. It wasn't the same, but quite similar. I thought it > was a good idea, so I installed and used it for a while. But there > were several problems. > > Despite their using the word "intuitive" several times in the 8pen > video, it is NOT intuitive: what's "intuitive" to us is the shape of > the letter as we've been taught it, which is why writing in script > works, albeit slowly. Making a permanent association in your mind > between a letter and a new shape takes a while, especially if you're > not a heavy user of the system. And if you're a heavy user, you're > essentially crippled for the learning period. I found I used the Palm > writing input too infrequently to ever fully memorize the system, so > it never became useful and I removed it. The program never really > made a mark, not even in the relatively small Palm software market. > > A couple other quibbles about the system: I see no reference at all to > capital letters. Implementing them would increase the complexity of > the system, but not having them limits its usefulness. And second, > while they describe it as "fast," that's only relative to on-screen > keyboard input without predictive text. I would be really surprised > if anyone got significantly above 15wpm with a system like this, > although again predictive text might help. > > Don't get me wrong: I love that people are trying out new methods of > input, because we sure as hell need them for phones. But in this case > this is similar enough to something that's been tried and didn't work > that I don't see this flying. > > > On 9 May 2011 04:45, Eduard Werner/Edward Wornar <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Monday 09 May 2011 07:59:09 Keith Ratliff wrote: > > > I think it looks interesting. Ill install it and try it out. Thought I > > > don't text often. > > > > Could you post your experience when you've tried it out, please? My > killer > > features would be customization for other languages and unicode support - > can > > I input šćł and friends? > > > > > > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 22:53, Shane Duan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Simplified gesture, it actually sounds interesting. The only question > is > > > > that are those skill easy to learn, and are they easy to forget > unless > > > > you use your phone to type like a teenager? > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Aroleon Grunow < > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Anyone seen this? > > > > > > > > > > http://www.the8pen.com/ > > > > > > > > > > My immediate reaction is "eewwwwww...", and I don't have an Android > to > > > > > try it on, but I'd be interested in what other people think. > > -- > Giles > http://www.gilesorr.com/ > [email protected] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]