Re: Re: Dvorak for Brits?
Kim Bastin <[email protected]> Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:25:22 +1000
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--T3BFk9b8dPi9GFLt108OajNQhaQiJW0CovNXsPv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Agreed the UI is a bit clunky, but OP just wanted three extra characters. Not that much work even with KLC. Having used it a lot, I generally use a text editor to edit an existing=20 .klc file and just run KLC to generate the layout file. On 27/08/2011 04:42, marzolian wrote: > I once customized my keyboard using the KLC. It will produce the best > results and it's greater for tinkerers, HOWEVER it will take you some > time to install and learn to use, and even then it's clumsy. > > My impression of the process was: it's as if you wanted to change the > buttons on your car radio and you had to remove the transmission to > do so. > > Steven > > > --- In [email protected], Kim Bastin<kimb@...> wrote: >> >> At http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb964665 you will find >> the Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator, with which you can create >> your own layout. The layouts it creates are `genuine' Windows >> layouts which require no special software to run once installed. >> >> Kim Bastin >> >> On 23/08/2011 06:00, Craig Richmond wrote: >>> I live in the UK but grew up with Australian keyboard layouts and >>> do exactly as you suggest and just use those characters. >>> >>> At work I end up using insert character a lot because I have a >>> Kinesis keyboard and the ALT-number-number-number shortcuts >>> aren't practical to use on it. Failing, that it might be time to >>> figure out how to create a keyboard code page yourself or work >>> around the problem by installing some kind of utility to help you >>> type the characters you're looking for easier. >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> On 22 Aug 2011, at 20:20, Marcus Brooks wrote: >>> >>>> Hey guys, how do British PC users generate the ~ and =A3 keys? I >>>> heard from a Brit who says his =A3 key is mapped wrong in >>>> Windows Dvorak, and ~ is missing. Is there a fix? >>>> >>>> FYI: In Mac OS X 10.6 US Dvorak, the tilde key is Shift-` (next >>>> to the 1 key), or Opt-n for the combiner, and =A3 is Option-3. >>>> -- marcus@... http://area42.mwbrooks.com chat (A/Y/G): >>>> mwbrooks42 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> To Post a message, send it to: altkeyboards@... To >>>> Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: >>>> altkeyboards-unsubscribe@...! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> To Post a message, send it to: altkeyboards@... To Unsubscribe, >>> send a blank message to: altkeyboards-unsubscribe@...! Groups >>> Links >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > To Post a message, send it to: [email protected] To > Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: > [email protected]! Groups Links > > > --T3BFk9b8dPi9GFLt108OajNQhaQiJW0CovNXsPv Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p>Agreed the UI is a bit clunky, but OP just wanted three extra<br> characters. Not that much work even with KLC.<br> <br> Having used it a lot, I generally use a text editor to edit an existing <br= > .klc file and just run KLC to generate the layout file.<br> <br> On 27/08/2011 04:42, marzolian wrote:<br> > I once customized my keyboard using the KLC. It will produce the best<= br> > results and it's greater for tinkerers, HOWEVER it will take you some<= br> > time to install and learn to use, and even then it's clumsy.<br> ><br> > My impression of the process was: it's as if you wanted to change the<= br> > buttons on your car radio and you had to remove the transmission to<br= > > do so.<br> ><br> > Steven<br> ><br> ><br> > --- In <a href=3D"mailto:altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com">altkeyboards@= yahoogroups.com</a>, Kim Bastin<kimb@...> wrote:<br> >><br> >> At <a href=3D"http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb964665">h= ttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb964665</a> you will find<br> >> the Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator, with which you can create<b= r> >> your own layout. The layouts it creates are `genuine' Windows<br> >> layouts which require no special software to run once installed.<b= r> >><br> >> Kim Bastin<br> >><br> >> On 23/08/2011 06:00, Craig Richmond wrote:<br> >>> I live in the UK but grew up with Australian keyboard layouts = and<br> >>> do exactly as you suggest and just use those characters.<br> >>><br> >>> At work I end up using insert character a lot because I have a= <br> >>> Kinesis keyboard and the ALT-number-number-number shortcuts<br= > >>> aren't practical to use on it. Failing, that it might be time= to<br> >>> figure out how to create a keyboard code page yourself or work= <br> >>> around the problem by installing some kind of utility to help = you<br> >>> type the characters you're looking for easier.<br> >>><br> >>> Craig<br> >>><br> >>> On 22 Aug 2011, at 20:20, Marcus Brooks wrote:<br> >>><br> >>>> Hey guys, how do British PC users generate the ~ and =A3 k= eys? I<br> >>>> heard from a Brit who says his =A3 key is mapped wrong in<= br> >>>> Windows Dvorak, and ~ is missing. Is there a fix?<br> >>>><br> >>>> FYI: In Mac OS X 10.6 US Dvorak, the tilde key is Shift-` = (next<br> >>>> to the 1 key), or Opt-n for the combiner, and =A3 is Optio= n-3.<br> >>>> -- marcus@... <a href=3D"http://area42.mwbrooks.com">http:= //area42.mwbrooks.com</a> chat (A/Y/G):<br> >>>> mwbrooks42<br> >>>><br> >>>><br> >>>><br> >>>><br> >>>><br> >>>> ------------------------------------<br> >>>><br> >>>> To Post a message, send it to: altkeyboards@... To<br> >>>> Unsubscribe, send a blank message to:<br> >>>> altkeyboards-unsubscribe@...! Groups Links<br> >>>><br> >>>><br> >>>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>> ------------------------------------<br> >>><br> >>> To Post a message, send it to: altkeyboards@... To Unsubscri= be,<br> >>> send a blank message to: altkeyboards-unsubscribe@...! 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