Re: Keyboard news
"r.sherriff" <[email protected]> Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:55:30 -0000
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--qNA5sBwWdQtQt9ektYLNRmY1yVtdeeSELRCYcks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm thinking on the same lines. Was learning Dvorak (very intuitive and a l= ot faster than Qwerty), but decided the best bet for me (for non home reaso= ns} would be Qwerty with an ergonomic keyboard. If I was writing a novel, = Dvorak would for me, be the way to go. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --- In [email protected], "marzolian" <marzolian@...> wrote: > > Hi, Giles. Glad to see that there's still interest in the group. >=20 > I have most of what I like in a keyboard. For both home and office, I use= a MS Natural Elite keyboard with a Wow-Pen Joy mouse. I am a big fan of th= e contoured keyboard; to me it was a much bigger improvement than the Dvora= k layout. When I sit at a flat keyboard or use a regular mouse it feels wro= ng, or twisted. >=20 > I tried Dvorak (for a few months in the last millenium) but I had lots of= trouble switching back and forth (was working short-term assignments where= I couldn't switch). Also annoying was the Ctrl-X / C / V assignments. For = that reason, I would consider Colemak, maybe, one day. >=20 > I think my ideal keyboard would be ergonomic, in the style of the Natural= Elite, with a cursor device such as a J-mouse (no touch pad) in the middle= of the keys, or something like a Rollermouse below the space bar. I like t= he buckling spring action, but not the noise. And I wish somebody would mak= e an ergo keyboard without the leftward slant. The right hand's fairly comf= ortable, actually, it's just the left side. >=20 > Thinking farther out, I would like to try something like a data glove -- = where my fingers would twitch but not have to touch a physical keyboard. Bu= t I have been waiting for that for about 15 years, and it ain't happening y= et. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Steven Marzuola > www.techlanguage.com --qNA5sBwWdQtQt9ektYLNRmY1yVtdeeSELRCYcks Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>I'm thinking on the same lines. Was learning Dvorak (very intuitive and a lot faster than Qwerty), but decided the best bet for me (for non home reasons} would be Qwerty with an ergonomic keyboard. If I was writing a novel, Dvorak would for me, be the way to go.<br> <br> ===================================================================<br> <br> --- In <a href="mailto:altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a>, "marzolian" <marzolian@...> wrote:<br> ><br> > Hi, Giles. Glad to see that there's still interest in the group.<br> > <br> > I have most of what I like in a keyboard. For both home and office, I use a MS Natural Elite keyboard with a Wow-Pen Joy mouse. I am a big fan of the contoured keyboard; to me it was a much bigger improvement than the Dvorak layout. When I sit at a flat keyboard or use a regular mouse it feels wrong, or twisted.<br> > <br> > I tried Dvorak (for a few months in the last millenium) but I had lots of trouble switching back and forth (was working short-term assignments where I couldn't switch). Also annoying was the Ctrl-X / C / V assignments. For that reason, I would consider Colemak, maybe, one day.<br> > <br> > I think my ideal keyboard would be ergonomic, in the style of the Natural Elite, with a cursor device such as a J-mouse (no touch pad) in the middle of the keys, or something like a Rollermouse below the space bar. I like the buckling spring action, but not the noise. And I wish somebody would make an ergo keyboard without the leftward slant. The right hand's fairly comfortable, actually, it's just the left side.<br> > <br> > Thinking farther out, I would like to try something like a data glove -- where my fingers would twitch but not have to touch a physical keyboard. But I have been waiting for that for about 15 years, and it ain't happening yet.<br> > <br> > Cheers,<br> > <br> > Steven Marzuola<br> > www.techlanguage.com<br> <br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Keyboard%20news" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Keyboard%20news"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwMGQ3NmphBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1Nzk5ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4NTY0BG1zZ0lkAzM4OTcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzMzODgzMDc2?act=reply&messageNum=3897">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMG9vN2tnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1Nzk5ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4NTY0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTMzMzg4MzA3Ng--" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/message/3892;_ylc=X3oDMTM0NzYxMTQ2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1Nzk5ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4NTY0BG1zZ0lkAzM4OTcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzMzODgzMDc2BHRwY0lkAzM4OTI-">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">5</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaXZqcnJzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1Nzk5ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4NTY0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTMzMzg4MzA3Ng--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ygrp-grfd" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; padding: 15px 0;"> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> To Post a message, send it to: [email protected]<BR> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [email protected] <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkN2VqaDQ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1Nzk5ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4NTY0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMzMzODgzMDc2" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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