Re: [PIC] Learning C

Needs to be more specific, for console apps on Linux and Windows I use
VSCode with GCC, for Pi Pico I use the same, for STM32 I use the STM32
CubeIDE.

I've not written C GUI apps for a long time.

On Wed, 13 Nov 2024, 14:23 David C Brown, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Perhaps I need to rephrase my needs.
>
> I am a competent programmer and coding holds no fears for me.
> I have programmed in several languages and written some quite complicated
> programs in Pascal and Visual Basic.
>
> So  what I need  is to understand the syntax of the language - I have a
> copy of Kernighan and Ritchieand - and write few useful applications on my
> PC..
> Where I need real advice is on what IDE/compiler to use.  I am not averse
> to spending money on tsat
>
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> On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 at 07:43, Richard Prosser <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Russell,
> > I was thinking of recommending Arduino, but wasn't brave enough!
> > The plusses are ease of use, plenty of examples and libraries, a good
> range
> > of MCUs, development boards and quick implementation. MPUs include AVR,
> > STM32, ESP and (using Energia) MSP430s. The downside is that it can be a
> > bit limiting although you can write your way around most problems, no
> > inbuilt RTOS as such, limited simulation capability and that a bit of C++
> > knowledge may help in the long run. And it's not for desktop utilities -
> > strictly MCUs.
> >
> > I note that no-one has recommended C#/MS Visual studio, and I'd also go
> > along with this. IMHO it's not quite C.
> >
> > RP
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 at 02:58, RussellMc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 at 02:12, David C Brown <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I must stress that I want to learn C as a desktop language before
> > > > converting to PIC use..
> > > > Recommendations for a good book would be appreciated
> > > >
> > > >
> > > At the risk of being cast into outer darkness (weeping, wailing,
> > > gnashing of teeth, ...)
> > > I'll have another try at mentioning Arduinos.
> > >
> > > Here is a PIC implementation
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.instructables.com/Pinguino-Project-a-PIC-Microcontroller-Based-Ardui/
> > >
> > > And here is a page that mentions several , but they me be somewhat more
> > > arcane
> > >
> > >         https://forum.arduino.cc/t/arduino-and-pic/868085
> > >
> > > BUT Arduino using AVRs is an exceedingly useful extra string to a
> > > multistring bow.
> > > The complete hardware, software, IDE ... (& even the power supply) for
> > your
> > > first attempt will cost you under GBP10.
> > > Possibly under GBP5.
> > > They are exceedingly easy to try and MAy lure you to the dark side.
> > >
> > > You don't even have to load the "flash a LED" / hello world equivalent
> > > code. Tey tend to have LED flash preloaded.
> > > Powering? - connect via USB cable to a PC (Windows / Linux / Mac)
> > > Software - download the latest IDE from here
> > > https://www.arduino.cc/en/software
> > > Examples?  There are many dozens of include examples, starting with
> flas
> > a
> > > LED, read a button.
> > > Plus ADC, DAC (PWM on many, true DAC on some), Serial, USB, SPI, ... .
> > > Typical sensors interfacing. More
> > >
> > > In many cases you can use a p[remade "sketch" and tweak it as required.
> > > A competent programmer can usually follow the code well enough without
> > > extra input, and detailed tutorials are available.
> > >
> > > The system is not, of course, perfect and gets somewhat arcane and
> messy
> > as
> > > you start to do more complex things, but millions of people have walked
> > the
> > > same path and there is much advice easily avaialable.
> > >
> > > Something like youe=r data logger, if maybe not quite trivial, would be
> > > extremely easy once you'd understood the basic system.
> > >
> > > This is an add on to other abilities and systems, but not one that
> should
> > > be lightly ignored. (I claim :-) ).
> > >
> > >
> > >      Russell
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