Re: Migrating from openbrick to openbrick NG

"Vincent Thinselin" <[email protected]> Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:33:39 +0200 (CEST)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.hardware.openbrick.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Przemyslaw Brojewski a =E9crit :
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 11:33:49AM +0200, Vincent Thinselin wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I plan to change my current OB for the NG. Many reasons for this: two
>> eth
>> ports, USB2, more powerful processor,....
>>
>> I do have a couple of questions: does the NG have an internal IDE
>> connector,or should everything be done by the USB2 ports ?
>
> It has IDE connector for 3.5" disks as well as 2.5" Laptop one.

Good. That's even better than external. Though I'm afraid of temperature.
Adding a HD will make things worse I'm afraid. Is it your current setup ?

>
>>
>> Is the DDR standard DDR ?
> Don't know. I can look and tell you what does my 512MB look like,
> (including all those magic numbers) or even make a picture for you.

Thanks. It shouldn't be necessary. I'm pretty sure its standard DDR, as o=
n
APIA boards built on C3 processors.

>
>>I have some spare which I could use.... is
>> dismounting as easy as the OB 1 ?
>
> Dismounting is very easy. The slot is accessible with bare hands,
> after unscrewing the top cover.

Good.

>
>>
>> Can it boot on USB hard disk ?
> Yes, you can.

So, I even don't have to use a CF. Really really more advanced than
classic OB then :)

>
>> If no, I guess the solution is to boot on a
>> kernel on a CF card, and to have the root FS on the USB external hard
>> disk. Of course, the kernel will need the correct modules to be compil=
ed
>> in.
>
> Yes, the kernel needs the correct modules. Myself, I use initrd.
>
>> Now a practical question: how to migrate my current HD (a 30Go 2"1/5) =
to
>> the 60Go 3"1/2 USB external HD ? I need to copy/resize the partitions.=
..
>> I
>> have only ext2 and ext3.
> I would tar over everything. But it is slow, might take the whole
> weekend if that 30G consists of many small files. If they are large
> files, then few hours.

That was my first intention. But as you mention it will take quite long.
As it is a server, I would like to reduce the downtime as much as
possible.
the MBR also needs to be reconstructed on the new disk before booting
it... maybe I will try a tool such as partition magic, although I had bad
experiences with such programs. Anyway the source disk will remain
intact....

>
>
>> I guess linux will see the new HD partitions as sda,sda2,... instead o=
f
>> the current hda1,hda2,... so I will need to change my /etc/fstab
>> probably.
> Yes, the USB drives are SCSI. 2.4 kernel needs usb_storage, sd_mod and
> some usb host modules (those from
> /lib/modules/2.4.*/kernel/drivers/usb/host/*)
>

I'll double-check if they are already compiled. in order not to have
problems at boot time, I'll probably build them in the kernel, not as
modules (no initrd in such case).

>> Anything else to change so I can boot sucesfully ?
>
> By default BIOS won't boot from USB, so you have to make that
> trivial change once.

Sure.

>
>>
>> I'll report my story (success I hope) on the list when I make up my mi=
nd
>> to get an OBNG.
>
> It's lovely piece of equipment. But because it's case is made almost
> solely of radiators, it is necessary to put it on something that will
> tolerate 50-60 Celsius. (In practice, after whole day of stressing
> CPU and graphics, the machine heated to about 45, maybe 50 C -- I could
> move it around with bare hands, so it couldn't be warmer than that)
>
> brojek.

Thanks for your answers ! Now I just need to find my credit card :(

BR/
Vincent

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