Re: Moderation

Am Don, 2003-08-14 um 13.17 schrieb Thomas Arendsen Hein:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 05:00:16PM +0200, Michael Hayder wrote:
> > Am Don, 2003-08-07 um 12.02 schrieb Thomas Arendsen Hein:
> > > Spam can be prevented by allowing only subscribed addresses to post.
> > > Other addresses will then be held for approval as now every mail is.
> > > 
> > Not @ all. As far as I know you have a webinterface for the
> > maillinglist, which makes it possible to view the thread(s)
> > of the maillinglist via web.
> > There is the problem !!! I have searched fpr my unique name 
> > [email protected] and I found my adress many times in the web.
> > There is comming a webharvester and collects the email adresses. And the
> > spam is in.
> 
> To make it more clear: Spam to the mailing list can be prevented by
> allowing only subscribed addresses to post.
yupp.

> 
> Moderation of this list wouldn't help against spam directly sent to
> you anyways.
> 
what I told you.

> > Please build a webinterface which removes all email-adresses in the
> > list-view.  They are not nessesary to view the content
> 
> An upgrade to Mailman 2.1.2 would help here.
> 
yes.

> > > The other problem is advertising from subscribed users. But how
> > > much can this be? And banning such people from the list would be an
> > > option, too.
> >
> > You can get them also with the subject....
> 
> The topic is spam to the list. If Spam gets through the list, it
> will have the [Openbrick] subject, too.
> 
Yes... but I have received 3 mails from the list directly and ... one
moment... 187 in 4 Months .. directly to /dev/null
The topic in my opinion is wrong .... and thinking small is wrong @ this
place 
:-> 
mic

Stopping this thread is usefull I think .... the big problems are solved
with the update of the webinterface. Moderation is usefull I guess.
  

> > > Our mailman installation runs SpamAssassin to lower the number of
> > > mails to discard. I can provide you with details how to set this up
> > > after my vacation (that is at the end of August).
> > > 
> > :-> ....  not usefull .... good spammers are sending coded words so spam
> > assasin would not work correct.... use a harded m ailserver like qmail
> > and use the tools deliverd with it ... rblcheck,dnsreverse check etc. 
> 
> SpamAssassin uses some RBLs, too, but you have to adjust the scoring
> to let one RBL hit kill a mail.
> 
If a spammer uses spamassasin to check his spammail ... you are lost
too. Sorry.
mic

> Thomas