Re: Moderation

Am Don, 2003-08-14 um 13.27 schrieb Viktor Bautista i Roca:
> A Dilluns 11 Agost 2003 17:00, Michael Hayder va escriure:
> 
> > > Spam can be prevented by allowing only subscribed addresses to post.
> > > Other addresses will then be held for approval as now every mail is.
> >
> > Not @ all. As far as I know you have a webinterface for the
> > maillinglist, which makes it possible to view the thread(s)
> > of the maillinglist via web.
> > There is the problem !!! I have searched fpr my unique name
> > [email protected] and I found my adress many times in the web.
> > There is comming a webharvester and collects the email adresses. And the
> > spam is in.
> 
> 	You are mixing two problems... Spam TO the list can be prevented just by 
> allowing only subscribers to post. Other addresses, must be moderated.
> 
> 	On the other hand, you are talking about receiving spam BECAUSE OF the list, 
> well, in fact because of the public archives.
> 
> > Please build a webinterface which removes all email-adresses in the
> > list-view.  They are not nessesary to view the content
> 
> 	It is done. 
> 
> 	To the list admin:
> 
> 	Go to the list administration web.
> 	Click on Privacy Options
> 	Check you are in Subscription Rules
> 	Look for "Show member addresses so they're not directly recognizable as email 
> addresses? (Details for obscure_addresses)" (is the last option)
> 	Click on Yes
> 	Submit changes
> 
> 
> > > Our mailman installation runs SpamAssassin to lower the number of
> > > mails to discard. I can provide you with details how to set this up
> > > after my vacation (that is at the end of August).
> > >
> > :-> ....  not usefull .... good spammers are sending coded words so spam
> > assasin would not work correct.... use a harded m ailserver like qmail
> > and use the tools deliverd with it ... rblcheck,dnsreverse check etc.
> > greets
> > mic
> 
> 	I don't know your experience with spamassassin, but it seems you have not 
> used it in a long time, or you are using a VERY old version. We are using 
> version 2.55 and it gets almost ALL spam. With a spam-level of 4 it catches 
> aprox 95% of all spam, and no false positive at all. 

Looser :->
My Mailserver @ his own gets connected 1277899 the last 24 hours ... not
only a few mails @ your place .... 10799 are stopped by my active test
during the first connection... in my 900 Mailboxes of my customers are
exactly 12 mails identified by spamassasin .... 3 weeks ago I have
tested manually with my customers a few spam mails .... all of them
passed spamassasin without a problem .....very good spam mails !!!! I
promise .... they have tested them with spamassasin before !!!!

P.S: to collect this mails ... I have made a cross check !!!!
Spamassin marks 180 Mails ... which are no spam .... to get 12 good spam
mails.

Spamassin is kiddy stuff.... every good spammer ist testing his mail
with that program, too .... and what are you doing then .... 

Solution: Harden your mailserver first ... is better ... but much more
work and knowledge is nessesary.
mic



> 
> 	From my main work address, in the last 24hours, 241 spam messages catched, 6 
> not catched. No false positive.
> 
> 	BTW, we use the bayesian filter in spamassassin.
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MfG

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