Re: Component Video Y, Pr, PB

Bill,

When it comes to understanding/using professional video on LCD panels 
there's only one engineer, personally, that I turn to.  His name is Mike 
Boland and his company Boland Communications, www.bolandcom.com, is on the 
forefront when it comes to working with video/LCD technology.  If you need 
answers by tomorrow you could give him a call on his cellphone, (714) 
747-9090.  Tell him what you're working on and tell him that I recommended 
you give him a call.  If anbody can provide answers (and solutions) it's Mike.

Bart

P.S.  Tell him I said hi !!

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HD Editing Systems, Consulting, Production & Post, Exhibition & Distribution
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At 09:48 PM 6/8/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>I basically agree with you except this customer ( a major airplane maker) 
>is trying to put component inputs onto an a/c that uses CRT and composite 
>and will use LCD to replace the CRT and  upgrade to component distribution 
>to the LCDS. They are testing in their "lab", the LCD using the old 
>Pioneer DVD player.
>
>To be fair to them, they are now in the process of getting another DVD 
>player to use. The confusion factor is the fact that the Pioneer works 
>with a Panasonic plasma; but not withe the LCDs.
>
>The reason I went looking for a spec is that anticpating the outcome of 
>what is happening led me to conclude that I better be on good ground when 
>and if I am forced to handle the issue from a different perspective. 
>(contractural).
>
>I find it really amazing that there does not seem to be an "authority" for 
>one of  today's most used video interface.
>
>Bill
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>From: Bart Harrison <[email protected]>
>To: Roku Tech Mail List and Discussion Group <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Roku-tech] Component Video Y, Pr, PB
>Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 20:54:39 +0000
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>Whenever I've run across such a situation it's normally a format issue, 
>the monitor only supports interlace or it only supports progressive.  The 
>voltage levals are pretty much ubiquitous.  The Y channel carries all 
>luminance and sync information and should be virtually identical to a 
>standard composite output (in 480i mode at-least).  You may have a 
>situation where the output parameters in the older player has drifted out 
>of spec over a period of time.  One monitor may be less sensitive to the 
>out of spec condition than the other.  Such a problem is normally a 
>frequency or sync drift rather than a voltage issue.  Anything's possible, 
>though, and this is all purely speculation on my part.  Personally I'd 
>recommend the customer dump the older DVD player in lieu of a newer unit 
>that works with the display.  DVD players (even good ones) are throw away 
>cheap these days anyhow.
>
>Bart
>
>
>
>At 08:34 PM 6/8/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>>Bart,
>>
>>Yes I guess we could try that. At th moment, the LCD is at the customer 
>>and not easily accessible to me.
>>
>>In retrospect, I guess I am really looking for the "authority" regarding 
>>voltage levels, wave forms, timing, those kinds of specs.
>>
>>Thanks for the assist.
>>
>>Bill
>>
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>>From: Bart Harrison <[email protected]>
>>To: Roku Tech Mail List and Discussion Group <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: [Roku-tech] Component Video Y, Pr, PB
>>Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 19:58:24 +0000
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>>Maybe try the composite out from the old Pioneer to the Y in on the LCD 
>>see if that give you anything (a B&W image).  Does the LCD have a 
>>composite in ??
>>
>>Bart
>>
>>
>>
>>At 07:15 PM 6/8/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>>>With two different source DVD players (Panasonic with two different 
>>>outputs, one for 480i and the other 480p; the other a SONY with "auto" 
>>>switching output,  the monitor works fine. With a third, older Pioneer 
>>>player with "switchable" 480i or 480p, the monitor displays "no signal".
>>>
>>>This same Pioneer plays to a Panasonic plasma just fine.
>>>
>>>Hence the question.
>>>
>>>Bil
>>>
>>>
>>> > Can I ask what is happening on your monitor?
>>> >
>>> > scott
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 6/8/04 2:02 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Scott,
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks for your response. I knew I could possibly find someone here 
>>> that might
>>> > > help my dilemma.
>>> > >
>>> > > I have an apparent "incompatibility" problem between a of source 
>>> Y,Pb,Pr
>>> > > signals and the device (LCD monitor) that uses these signals at its 
>>> Y,Pb,Pr
>>> > > inputs.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thus, is there an "authority" for saying: "One of you is not 
>>> meeting the spec"
>>> > > at this level.
>>> > >
>>> > > Bill
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >> What do you mean by official specification?  What info are you 
>>> looking for?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Scott
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On 6/8/04 1:20 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Anyone out there know of the "official" specfication that 
>>> describes Y, Pb,
>>> > >>> Pr
>>> > >>> component video signals?  A Google produces not really much help. 
>>> Is there
>>> > >>> an
>>> > >>> SMPTE document?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Bill
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