RE: Component Video Y, Pr, PB

You might want to "join forces"...  I have !

Bart


At 09:28 PM 6/8/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Bart,
>
>I am aware of Boland and in fact they compete with my company in at least 
>one market.
>
>Thanks
>Bill
>
>
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>Subject: Re: [Roku-tech] Component Video Y, Pr, PB
>
>Bill,
>
>When it comes to understanding/using professional video on LCD panels 
>there's only one engineer, personally, that I turn to.  His name is Mike 
>Boland and his company Boland Communications, www.bolandcom.com, is on the 
>forefront when it comes to working with video/LCD technology.  If you need 
>answers by tomorrow you could give him a call on his cellphone, (714) 
>747-9090.  Tell him what you're working on and tell him that I recommended 
>you give him a call.  If anbody can provide answers (and solutions) it's Mike.
>
>Bart
>
>P.S.  Tell him I said hi !!
>
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>Bart Harrison
>MPA - The HD Suite
>
>HD Editing Systems, Consulting, Production & Post, Exhibition & Distribution
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>954-894-1221
>
>
>At 09:48 PM 6/8/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>
>I basically agree with you except this customer ( a major airplane maker) 
>is trying to put component inputs onto an a/c that uses CRT and composite 
>and will use LCD to replace the CRT and  upgrade to component distribution 
>to the LCDS. They are testing in their "lab", the LCD using the old 
>Pioneer DVD player.
>
>To be fair to them, they are now in the process of getting another DVD 
>player to use. The confusion factor is the fact that the Pioneer works 
>with a Panasonic plasma; but not withe the LCDs.
>
>The reason I went looking for a spec is that anticpating the outcome of 
>what is happening led me to conclude that I better be on good ground when 
>and if I am forced to handle the issue from a different perspective. 
>(contractural).
>
>I find it really amazing that there does not seem to be an "authority" for 
>one of  today's most used video interface.
>
>Bill
>
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>From: Bart Harrison <[email protected]>
>To: Roku Tech Mail List and Discussion Group <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Roku-tech] Component Video Y, Pr, PB
>Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 20:54:39 +0000
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>Whenever I've run across such a situation it's normally a format issue, 
>the monitor only supports interlace or it only supports progressive.  The 
>voltage levals are pretty much ubiquitous.  The Y channel carries all 
>luminance and sync information and should be virtually identical to a 
>standard composite output (in 480i mode at-least).  You may have a 
>situation where the output parameters in the older player has drifted out 
>of spec over a period of time.  One monitor may be less sensitive to the 
>out of spec condition than the other.  Such a problem is normally a 
>frequency or sync drift rather than a voltage issue.  Anything's possible, 
>though, and this is all purely speculation on my part.  Personally I'd 
>recommend the customer dump the older DVD player in lieu of a newer unit 
>that works with the display.  DVD players (even good ones) are throw away 
>cheap these days anyhow.
>
>Bart
>
>
>
>At 08:34 PM 6/8/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>
>Bart,
>
>Yes I guess we could try that. At th moment, the LCD is at the customer 
>and not easily accessible to me.
>
>In retrospect, I guess I am really looking for the "authority" regarding 
>voltage levels, wave forms, timing, those kinds of specs.
>
>Thanks for the assist.
>
>Bill
>
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>From: Bart Harrison <[email protected]>
>To: Roku Tech Mail List and Discussion Group <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Roku-tech] Component Video Y, Pr, PB
>Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 19:58:24 +0000
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>Maybe try the composite out from the old Pioneer to the Y in on the LCD 
>see if that give you anything (a B&W image).  Does the LCD have a 
>composite in ??
>
>Bart
>
>
>
>At 07:15 PM 6/8/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>
>With two different source DVD players (Panasonic with two different 
>outputs, one for 480i and the other 480p; the other a SONY with "auto" 
>switching output,  the monitor works fine. With a third, older Pioneer 
>player with "switchable" 480i or 480p, the monitor displays "no signal".
>
>This same Pioneer plays to a Panasonic plasma just fine.
>
>Hence the question.
>
>Bil
>
>
> > Can I ask what is happening on your monitor?
> >
> > scott
> >
> >
> > On 6/8/04 2:02 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your response. I knew I could possibly find someone here 
> that might
> > > help my dilemma.
> > >
> > > I have an apparent "incompatibility" problem between a of source Y,Pb,Pr
> > > signals and the device (LCD monitor) that uses these signals at its 
> Y,Pb,Pr
> > > inputs.
> > >
> > > Thus, is there an "authority" for saying: "One of you is not meeting 
> the spec"
> > > at this level.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> What do you mean by official specification?  What info are you 
> looking for?
> > >>
> > >> Scott
> > >>
> > >> On 6/8/04 1:20 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Anyone out there know of the "official" specfication that describes 
> Y, Pb,
> > >>> Pr
> > >>> component video signals?  A Google produces not really much help. 
> Is there
> > >>> an
> > >>> SMPTE document?
> > >>>
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