Re: Sonos

Philip Garret Kosarek <[email protected]> Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:20:34 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.hardware.voyetra.audiotron
Message-ID <26EB93D6A797D411A41F00D0B7D4E81C0AC482E4@exchange.prog.altair.com>
Hey,

Why not integrate an ionizing air purifier on the AT?  At least Ron Popile
would then probably market it!

Phil






-----Original Message-----
From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AT] Sonos

Thats a great point...  That noone will buy any becuase there are too many
out there.  I fit squarely within this category.  I still have my AT from
3 years ago and I havent upgraded.  Meanwhile, Ive gone through 2 computers
and 2 stero systems.  Since Im not buying anything, no one is making $$$

There are just too many products to choose from and they all seem to do the
exact same thing.  So for now, Im just happy with the simple design of my AT
.  And no one is making money (not even TB)!  I think someone needs to
figure our a recurring revenue model (e.g., licensing fees maybe).

Why doesnt TB release the source code and charge a fee?  I would probably
pay for it to develop my own interface.

If a new product came along that really blew it out of the water, I would
buy it.

Its sorta like a vacuum cleaner.  It works and no need to fix it, unless a
way way superior product comes along (e.g., HEPA filters.  Thats when I
bought a new vacuum cleaner).


Seth Dotterer said:
> Eddie,
>
> eBay ATs are selling about 1-3 a day.  Any idea on what the return
> rate is on that?  Any idea how much it costs to develop a product like
> the AT?
>
> Bottom line - this market is just not mature yet - and there seems to
> be a never-ending stream of companies releasing clones and then
> dumping them (for way under cost) when they realize that they're not
> selling as many as they need to.  It LOOKS like a really sexy market,
> and the products are fun - but outside of the home installer market, I
> guarantee you no one is making any money.
>
> The end user sees a stream of products shipped then abandoned, is
> confused by all the 'options' and does what all consumers do when they
> don't understand which product to buy - they buy none.
>
> Anyway, it's a LOT more complicated than that - I probably shouldn't
> have even responded at all.  :)
>
>  -- seth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eddie
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AT] Sonos
>
> Not so much as not much of a market. Just bad marketing. TB did about
> everything wrong.
>
> AT are selling over MSRP on Ebay still. So the market exist.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:12:07 +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
>
>>Tim Hill writes:
>>> Is it that difficult to get this market right? Manufacturers don't
>>> seem to have any idea what they are doing.
>>
>>I imagine the dialogue goes like this:
>>
>>"Maybe we should being out something much like the Audiotron."
>>"Well, didn't the Audiotron company stop production?"
>>"Right. Can't be much of a market."
>>
>>Arnt
>