Re: Sonos

Not to rain on your parade eric, but this is an exercise in
futility....it is not coming out (mediatron). Other options can the
XBMC, windows media player extender etc. 

I agree with you that if they would have handled this correctly, the
situation would have been different, but then again that is the
operating expression here "handled this correctly".

We see everyday new products with similar capabilities, while other
manufactures are going to the more completed approach of providing
everything: media storage, streaming capability. I'm not paid my MS, but
in my book, unless you use XBMC, the next best option is Windows Media
Center with all the necessary extenders to stream content everywhere in
your house.

-----Original Message-----
From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Kotz
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:26
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AT] Sonos

Seth,
I think a lot of us are disappointed because we've seen the MediaTron.
I played with it with my own two hands.  90% of the development money
was already spent for it.  Yes TB would have to pay to tool up a
manufacturing line, but they already have the unit designed and
basically ready to ship.  Even if TB didn't make back all the
development money they already spend on the MediaTron, I would think
they would make more than the tooling costs and help offset the money
already spent.  Especially considering the MT-200's MSRP (~$1000) I have
to believe it costs very little more than the MT-150 which was set to
sell for $300, so that would be a decent profit for Turtle Beach.

Eric Kotz


Seth Dotterer wrote:

>Eddie,
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>eBay ATs are selling about 1-3 a day.  Any idea on what the return rate

>is on that?  Any idea how much it costs to develop a product like the 
>AT?
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>Bottom line - this market is just not mature yet - and there seems to 
>be a never-ending stream of companies releasing clones and then dumping

>them (for way under cost) when they realize that they're not selling as

>many as they need to.  It LOOKS like a really sexy market, and the 
>products are fun - but outside of the home installer market, I 
>guarantee you no one is making any money.
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>The end user sees a stream of products shipped then abandoned, is 
>confused by all the 'options' and does what all consumers do when they 
>don't understand which product to buy - they buy none.
>
>Anyway, it's a LOT more complicated than that - I probably shouldn't 
>have even responded at all.  :)
>
> -- seth
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum 
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eddie
>Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:01 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [AT] Sonos
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>Not so much as not much of a market. Just bad marketing. TB did about 
>everything wrong.
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>AT are selling over MSRP on Ebay still. So the market exist.
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>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:12:07 +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
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>>Tim Hill writes:
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>>>Is it that difficult to get this market right? Manufacturers don't 
>>>seem to have any idea what they are doing.
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>>I imagine the dialogue goes like this:
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>>"Maybe we should being out something much like the Audiotron."
>>"Well, didn't the Audiotron company stop production?"
>>"Right. Can't be much of a market."
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>>Arnt
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