Re: Question on opinions...

werner <[email protected]> Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:33:36 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.python.wxpython,gmane.comp.ide.boa-constructor.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Chris,

On 26/11/2010 20:43, Chris Spencer wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:46:55 +0100, werner<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> Adding new widgets can be done in two ways, either via the plug-in
>> support, see e.g. FlatNotebook-plug-in.py which I think I started and
>> Riaan fixed it up so it really worked;-) or via the "companions" support
>> see the sub-folder with the same name in Boa.
>>
>> Werner
> And I have used this technique from time to time.  I know how to add
> widgets for myself.  But why should everyone replicate my work to get
> the additional controls added to wxPython in the past 5 years or so?
Totally agree.

If you done any as plug-in's can you please post them to the Boa list as 
those anyone can just drop into the plug-in folder and they would be 
usable - o.k. they still won't make it into the next release until ....
> Would you not agree that it's better for a small group of people to
> add these controls and then release a Boa Constructor version with
> them integrated in?
>
> Frankly, I don't use Boa as a code editor or debugger.  I have other
> much more evolved code editors for that.
What are you using?  Wing IDE or?
>    What I do use Boa for is
> it's (as far as I am concerned) unmatched GUI creation ability.
>
> But it is showing its age.  Rust is creeping in.  And it's not keeping
> up with the increasing control density of wxPython.  And I don't think
> Riann (for WHATEVER reason) is willing/able to keep maintaining it.
I won't speak for Riaan (I am pretty sure he is old enough for that:-) ) 
but I am sure he cares but real live is just getting too much in the way 
for our liking - i.e. he is very very busy on protects which pay his 
food and roof etc and just doesn't have enough time to spend on Boa.

I don't see anyone beside Riaan who is totally familiar with Boa and so 
a "restart" without him does not make much sense.  I hope he will react 
to my post in reaction to this thread on the Boa list.
> I've often thought of making my own GUI creation tool, like Visual
> Studio's.  The amount of effort to get from zero to useful is beyond
> my ability to devote time to it.  However, BOA is 90% there already. I
> can spend the time helping to polish it up and bring it current with
> wxPython 2.9.
We really should take this Boa discussion onto the Boa list before 
others here get feed up with us.
> It's sad to see such a fantastic tool become, essentially,
> abandonware.
I would very much regret if Boa would be totally abandoned.

Werner

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