Re: Intro and port to 3.2

Hi

On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 14:27 -0700, Philippe Ombredanne wrote:
> Hi all,
> Bananeweisen recently accepted me a committer on the project.
> I would like to introduce myself to the list, and open for discussion a
> few things: possible TODOs on phpeclipse, and the future of the project.
> I develop a few open source eclipse plugins and maintain an eclipse
> distro called easyeclipse.
> 
> TODOs
> =======
> I think the first order of business is to make 
> **a port to 3.2, 
> **cleanup a bit the code, 
> **make plugins OSGi based
> My indent to apply those cleanups on the whole project.
> 
> Then:
> *fix debugging, which is the major almost working feature that everyone
> has issues with.
> 
> *ask Sf.net to relocate the top level CVS modules that are no longer in
> use/maintained under an "archives" module, so they do not show at the
> top, and we still keep the history.
> 
> *move to the Eclipse Public license to benefits more easily of the
> integration of recent JDT features, without license conflicts. We would
> need to have an explicit agreement of anyone who has ever committed
> things.
> 
> *wean the project of the annoying JDT dependency, but extracting the
> essential pieces we depend on, and ship them in the core. And maintain
> that going forward.
> 
> *web site. I have heard a few complaints from folks on IRC, and making
> it so that it really attracts new users and committers would be great.
> I know some of the folks that love phpeclipse may not have Java skills,
> but have great PHP and web skills that could be put to good use there.

I can definitely help here. Myself and another developer the idle in
#phpeclipse have agreed to give it a go. I'm going to chat with a
graphic designer I know about doing a new template. 

> 
> 
> 
> THE FUTURE?
> ==========
> I think phpeclipse is missing badly some love.
> I wonder who else is actively committing those days, or is ready to put
> back some love in phpeclipse, despite I saw some commits logs on DBG
> today.. yeah!

yeah yeah! The project is in desperate need of some lovin'

> I can see that Bananeweisen, axelcl, robekras and dynamike have been a
> bit active in the recent months.
> If you are ready to get back in the game or have objections, concerns,
> please reply, so we can coordinate.
> 
> Many historical developers of the project seems to have lost interest.
> That's life.
> To me, the phpeclipse future could be either:
> - 1/we let it die,
> - 2/we continue maintaining the project barely alive at a slow pace,
> - 3/we revive the committer community to keep it the premier PHP
> development it once was,
> - 4/we selectively fold some efforts that are duplicate work with phpide
> , and focus on added values to that porting DBG, Xdebug, and other
> refinements to work on top of phpide. The rationale there is that phpide
> has both an official Eclipse project status, and a dedicated committers
> team and is slowly getting the upper hand those days.
> 
> There may be many other options, but that's what comes to mind.
> To me option 1 or 2 have no appeal whatsoever.
> Option 3 is the best and 4 the second best.

Personally, I'd love to see #3 happen and can help in any way possible
to make this a reality.

> 
> What do you think?
> 

Sounds like a plan to me where do we start?


Best Regards,
AJ Tarachanowicz II


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