Re: sustainable swag
Rob Waller <[email protected]> Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:26:25 +0100
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--===============0557221934== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-880791545 --Apple-Mail-2-880791545 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To buy the ISO standards on symbol design and testing costs CHF462, =20 which is roughly $445. For this you get: ISO 7001 (3rd edition 2007) Graphical symbols =97 Public information =20 symbols (56 pages) ISO 9186-1 (2007) Graphical symbols =97 Test methods =97 Part 1: Methods = =20 for testing comprehensibility (26 pages) ISO 9186-2 (2008) Graphical symbols =97 Test methods =97 Part 2: Method =20= for testing perceptual quality (13 pages) ISO 22727 (2007) Graphical symbols =97 Creation and design of public =20 information symbols =97 Requirements (25 pages) This is for a single user license - I am not supposed to copy it, put =20= it on our network or presumably show it to anyone else! On the other hand, the market is very small, and the costs high... Rob __________________________________ Rob Waller Department of Typography & Graphic Communication University of Reading T +44 (0) 118 378 6411 M +44 (0) 7850 665933 On 16 Aug 2010, at 14:28, Caroline Jarrett wrote: >> =46rom Randal: >> >> I believe these prices may be an error >> -- according to what I have >> read in Switzerland it is common >> to use the comma to denote the >> decimal point for fractions -- >> except when the units concerned are >> Swiss Francs. It is possible that >> the programmer here forgot this >> exception and used the comma instead >> as with other numbers. This would >> make these documents around $101.00 US >> dollars rather than $10,100.00. > > Hi Randal > > I was thinking in terms of each standard costing around USD $100.00 =20= > when I > wrote that they cost 'a fortune'. OK, I admit that I was exaggerating > somewhat, but 100 bucks for a standard seems pretty high to me. =20 > Especially > if you need to buy more than one of them, such as the ISO 9241 series. > ISO/TR 9241-100:2010 costs 99 CHF, USD $95, and that just tells you =20= > about > all the other parts of the standard. I'm still smarting a bit from =20 > paying > out real, personal money some years ago for the full set of ISO 9241 =20= > as it > used to be. > > Best > Caroline Jarrett > Twitter @cjforms > www.formsthatwork.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Use the following address to post a message to all subscribers: > [email protected] > > To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your options, visit: > http://list.InformationDesign.org/mailman/listinfo/infodesign-cafe > > For all Information Design matters: > http://InformationDesign.org > > Problems? Write to: > [email protected] > ___________________________________________________________________ --Apple-Mail-2-880791545 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">To buy the ISO standards on = symbol design and testing costs CHF462, which is roughly $445. For this = you get:<div><br><div>ISO 7001 (3rd edition 2007) Graphical symbols = =97 Public information symbols (56 pages)</div><div>ISO 9186-1 = (2007) Graphical symbols =97 Test methods =97 Part = 1: Methods for testing comprehensibility (26 pages)</div> = <div><div>ISO 9186-2 (2008) Graphical symbols =97 Test methods = =97 Part 2: Method for testing perceptual quality (13 = pages)</div></div><div>ISO 22727 (2007) Graphical symbols =97 = Creation and design of public information symbols = =97 Requirements (25 pages)</div> <br><div>This is for a single = user license - I am not supposed to copy it, put it on our network or = presumably show it to anyone else!</div><div><br></div><div>On the other = hand, the market is very small, and the costs = high... </div><div><br></div><div>Rob</div><div><br><div = apple-content-edited=3D"true"> <div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; = font-size: 12px; "><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; = "><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"Helvetica">__________________________________</font></div><div><fo= nt class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Helvetica"><br = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; ">Rob = Waller</span></span></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal = normal normal 13px/normal 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 16px; font-size: = 13px; "><br style=3D"font-size: 13px; "></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; ">Department of Typography & Graphic = Communication</span></span></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; ">University of = Reading</span></span></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; ">T +44 (0) 118 378 = 6411</span></span></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 13px; ">M +44 (0) 7850 = 665933</span></span></span></font></div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"Helvetica"><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div></div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 16 Aug 2010, = at 14:28, Caroline Jarrett wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div><blockquote type=3D"cite">=46rom = Randal:<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">I believe these = prices may be an error <br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">-- = according to what I have<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">read = in Switzerland it is common <br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">to = use the comma to denote the<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite">decimal point for fractions -- = <br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">except when the units = concerned are<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Swiss Francs. It = is possible that <br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">the = programmer here forgot this<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite">exception and used the comma instead = <br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">as with other numbers. This = would<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">make these documents = around $101.00 US <br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">dollars = rather than $10,100.00.<br></blockquote><br>Hi Randal<br><br>I was = thinking in terms of each standard costing around USD $100.00 when = I<br>wrote that they cost 'a fortune'. OK, I admit that I was = exaggerating<br>somewhat, but 100 bucks for a standard seems pretty high = to me. Especially<br>if you need to buy more than one of them, such as = the ISO 9241 series.<br>ISO/TR 9241-100:2010 costs 99 CHF, USD $95, and = that just tells you about<br>all the other parts of the standard. I'm = still smarting a bit from paying<br>out real, personal money some years = ago for the full set of ISO 9241 as it<br>used to be. = <br><br>Best<br>Caroline Jarrett<br>Twitter @cjforms<br><a = href=3D"http://www.formsthatwork.com">www.formsthatwork.com</a><br><br><br= >___________________________________________________________________<br><b= r>Use the following address to post a message to all subscribers: <br> = [email protected]<br><br>To subscribe, = unsubscribe or change your options, visit:<br> = http://list.InformationDesign.org/mailman/listinfo/infodesign-cafe<br><br>= For all Information Design matters:<br> = http://InformationDesign.org<br><br>Problems? Write to:<br> = [email protected]<br>______________________= _____________________________________________<br></div></blockquote></div>= <br></div></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-2-880791545-- --===============0557221934== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________ Use the following address to post a message to all subscribers: [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your options, visit: http://list.InformationDesign.org/mailman/listinfo/infodesign-cafe For all Information Design matters: http://InformationDesign.org Problems? Write to: [email protected] ___________________________________________________________________ --===============0557221934==--