Re: Food Pyramid versus MyPlate

Jose Marconi Bezerra de Souza <[email protected]> Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:29:51 -0300
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Dear all,


I found Isabel=B4s article link
*Visual Representations of Health Information: A Critique of the 2005 Food
Pyramid*<http://ac-journal.org/journal/pubs/2008/Special%20Edition%2008%20-=
%20Aesthetics/Article_6.pdf>.
*American Communication Journal*, vol. 10, Special Issue 2008: Aesthetics i=
n
an Experimental Age. American Communication Association. Guest editor: S. H=
.
Grey. Lead Author, written in collaboration with C. Noland, Health
Communication (75% my work).


Jos=E9.

On 3 June 2011 07:10, Carina Andersson <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Dear all.
>
> If I understand it correctly a pyramid has been used in USA to visualize
> the proportion of a standard meal.
>
> Now these days a plate is used instead of the pyramid.
>
>
>
> I totally agree with Rob Waller.
>
> The plate-model  requires  probably less cognitive efforts, since we are
> used to read circle diagrams.
>
> Furthermore, the plate has a iconic similarity to how it really looks at
> our dinner table.
>
>
>
> In Sweden the plate-model has been used for ages. And it has a variety of
> =93looks=94.
>
> The major difference is actually the content. We do not separate vegetabl=
es
> and fruit.
>
>
>
> I think the plate-model would be easier to interpret if symbols/images of
> foods where combined with text.
>
> And I wonder, just as Rob mentioned, where does potatoes fit in?
>
> Dairy is a great thing to have in the plate-model. We do not have that in
> Sweden.
>
> It may be because it is called the *Pate*-model.
>
>
>
> In this link you may see the plate-model presented by FDA in Sweden.
>
>
> http://www.slv.se/sv/grupp1/Mat-och-naring/Matcirkeln-och-tallriksmoddell=
en/Tallriksmodellen/
>
>
>
> All the best
>
> Carina
>
>
>
>
>
> PhD, Senior Lecture
>
> Carina Andersson
>
> School of Innovation, Design and Engineering
>
> M=E4lardalen University
>
> Box 325
>
> 631 05 Eskilstuna
>
> Sweden
>
>
>
> Tfn. arb. +46 16 15 36 89
>
> Tfn. mob. +46  700 91 1234
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Fr=E5n:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *F=F6r *Rob Waller
> *Skickat:* den 3 juni 2011 11:16
> *Till:* Discussions about information design
> *=C4mne:* Re: InfoD-Cafe: Food Pyramid versus MyPlate
>
>
>
> This looks to me like a very interesting design and I'll seek out the
> research that no doubt lies behind it. I am impressed that something as
> simple as this has been negotiated, as it is fairly memorable and also
> simple enough to be reproduced on food packaging and menus. I can also se=
e
> it's potential power as a template against which to compare your actual
> plate, and I can see it used for nutrition education - actual plates can =
be
> judged against it, card sorts used and meals planned.
>
>
>
> I believe people are pretty attuned to comparing portions of a circle
> (trained as children to monitor the fair slicing of cakes), whereas pyram=
ids
> involve comparing different sizes and shapes. Pyramids also have the
> inherent problem of unreliable symbolism. Although they are intended to
> reflect different proportions, so less necessary foods are at the top, in
> other circumstances the top signifies high attainment - self-fulfillment =
in
> Maslow, the winner's podium... and of course the foods at the bottom are
> peasant fare, while the sugar, cream and chocolate at the top is the food=
 of
> kings. No data, just conjecture.
>
>
>
> In terms of what the proportions should actually be, that's down to the
> nutritionists to debate. Some issues that occur to me are:
>
>
>
> - I was interested to see how dairy is treated as a side dish or drink,
> which may be how it comes in the form of milk, yogurt or ice cream, but
> people may have a problem knowing where cheese fits in. Gastronomically i=
t
> is probably seen as part of the protein component in a meal.
>
>
>
> - I wonder why fruit is not similarly treated. Including it on the main
> plate reduces the power of the plate as a template.
>
>
>
> - I wonder where potatoes fit in (vegetable? or playing the same
> gastronomic role as pasta or rice which are from grains?). Perhaps it is
> different the USA but in the UK I don't think 'grains' would be accuratel=
y
> understood.
>
>
>
> But it's important not to be too picky about simplified solutions, if the=
y
> do a good job in moving people in the right direction. The UK's five-a-da=
y
> campaign (refers to portions of fruit or veg) has caught on well and ente=
red
> into the public consciousness, although I don't what actual effect on
> consumption has resulted.
>
>
>
> I was involved with the development of the UK's national food guide in th=
e
> early 90s. A pyramid was compared with a plate, and no significant
> difference in comprehension was found in a fairly comprehensive task-base=
d
> study involving over 2000 participants. A plate was chosen based on a
> marginal preference rather than performance.
>
>
>
> The design we used (the result of extensive negotations involving health
> professionals, designers, government and the food industry, rather than a=
n
>  inspired creative process) was extremely detailed in its portrayal of fo=
od,
> and was very compromised by political lobbying by the food industry. In
> particular, fatty/sugary snacks were heavily defended and so included in
> what purports to show a healthy diet.
>
>
>
> The UK's plate was poorly promoted, did not catch on widely, and has now
> virtually disappeared from view. Google struggled to find any trace, exce=
pt
> for this website: http://www.bdaweightwise.com/eating/eating_diet.html
>
> and some journal articles such as this one:
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17539873
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
>
> Rob Waller
> The Simplification Centre
>
> 07850 665933
> [email protected]
> www.simplificationcentre.org.uk
>
>
>
> On 3 Jun 2011, at 04:15, Frank Marchak wrote:
>
>
>
>  Greetings.
>
> The United States Department of Agriculture has replaced the Food Pyramid=
 =96
> used to guide healthy food choices =96 with MyPlate (www.choosemyplate.go=
v).
>
> While some criticisms of the original pyramid still remain with the new
> design (e.g., presented only in English, takes no account of level of
> exercise), this is the first change since the pyramid replaced an equal
> quadrant square graphic developed in the 1980s.
>
> I have my own opinions of the new approach, but wanted to query the caf=
=E9
> to get the views of other members. Does this design present a less
> complicated approach that can be understood by a wider audience? Can
> people more readily comprehend a pie chart approach versus a pyramidal
> representation? Does the plate better reflect new findings in nutrition
> (e.g., perhaps carbohydrates should not form the base of a balanced diet)=
?
> Are circles better received than triangles?
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
>
> Frank
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Frank M. Marchak, Ph.D.
>
> Veridical Research and Design Corporation
>
> 211 West Main Street - Lower Level
>
> PO Box 6503
>
> Bozeman, MT 59771-6503 USA
>
> 406.522.9045 : tel
>
> 406.522.9048 : fax
>
> 406.581.0870 : cel
>
> www.vradc.com
>
>
>
>
>
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*Jos=E9 Marconi Bezerra de Souza (PhD, 2008)*
Consultor em design da informa=E7=E3o e professor do Mestrado e Gradua=E7=
=E3o de
Design da UFPR
*Information design consultant  and university lecturer (Brazil)
PhD **- Department of Typography & Graphic Communication, The University of
Reading (UK, 2008)*
*Master of Arts - **Department of Three-Dimensional Design, The Birmingham
City University (UK, 1992)*

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Dear all,<br><br><br>I found Isabel=B4s article link <br><a href=3D"http://=
ac-journal.org/journal/pubs/2008/Special%20Edition%2008%20-%20Aesthetics/Ar=
ticle_6.pdf"><strong>Visual Representations of Health Information: A Critiq=
ue of the 2005 Food Pyramid</strong></a>. <em>American Communication Journa=
l</em>,
 vol. 10, Special Issue 2008: Aesthetics in an Experimental Age.=20
American Communication Association. Guest editor: S. H. Grey. Lead=20
Author, written in collaboration with C. Noland, Health Communication=20
(75% my work).<br><br><br>Jos=E9.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3 Ju=
ne 2011 07:10, Carina Andersson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:car=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex;">









<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word" lang=3D"=
SV">

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dear =
all.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">If I understand it correctly a pyramid has been used in USA to v=
isualize
the proportion of a standard meal.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">Now these days a plate is used instead of the pyramid.</span></p=
>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">I totally agree with Rob Waller. </span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">The plate-model =A0requires =A0probably less cognitive efforts,
since we are used to read circle diagrams.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">Furthermore, the plate has a iconic similarity to how it really
looks at our dinner table. =A0=A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">In Sweden the plate-model has been used for ages. And it has a v=
ariety
of =93looks=94.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">The major difference is actually the content. We do not separate
vegetables and fruit. </span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">I think the plate-model would be easier to interpret if symbols/=
images
of foods where combined with text.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">And I wonder, just as Rob mentioned, where does potatoes fit in?
</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">Dairy is a great thing to have in the plate-model. We do not
have that in Sweden. </span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">It may be because it is called the <u>Pate</u>-model.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">In this link you may see the plate-model presented by FDA in
Sweden. =A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"http://www.slv.se/sv/grupp1/Mat-och-naring/Matcirkeln=
-och-tallriksmoddellen/Tallriksmodellen/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.slv.=
se/sv/grupp1/Mat-och-naring/Matcirkeln-och-tallriksmoddellen/Tallriksmodell=
en/</a></span></p>


<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">All the best</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">Carina</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">PhD, Senior Lecture </span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">Carina Andersson</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">School of Innovation, Design and Engineering</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">M=E4l=
ardalen University</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Box 3=
25</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">631 0=
5 Eskilstuna</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Swede=
n</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Tfn. =
arb. +46 16 15 36 89</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Tfn. =
mob. +46=A0 700 91 1234</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang=
=3D"EN-US">=A0</span></p>

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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Fr=E5n:</span></=
b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">
<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
g" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>=
] <b>F=F6r </b>Rob
Waller<br>
<b>Skickat:</b> den 3 juni 2011 11:16<br>
<b>Till:</b> Discussions about information design<br>
<b>=C4mne:</b> Re: InfoD-Cafe: Food Pyramid versus MyPlate</span></p>

</div>

</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This looks to me like a very interesting design and =
I&#39;ll
seek out the research that no doubt lies behind it. I am impressed that
something as simple as this has been negotiated, as it is fairly memorable =
and
also simple enough to be reproduced on food packaging and menus. I can also=
 see
it&#39;s potential power as a template against which to compare your actual=
 plate,
and I can see it used for nutrition education - actual plates can be judged
against it, card sorts used and meals planned.=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I believe people are pretty attuned to comparing por=
tions of
a circle (trained as children to monitor the fair slicing of cakes), wherea=
s
pyramids involve comparing different sizes and shapes.=A0Pyramids also have
the inherent problem of unreliable symbolism. Although they are intended to
reflect different proportions, so less necessary foods are at the top, in o=
ther
circumstances the top signifies high attainment - self-fulfillment in Maslo=
w,
the winner&#39;s podium... and of course the foods at the bottom are peasan=
t fare,
while the sugar, cream and chocolate at the top is the food of kings. No da=
ta,
just conjecture.</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In terms of what the proportions should actually be,=
 that&#39;s
down to the nutritionists to debate.=A0Some issues that occur to me are:</p=
>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">- I was interested to see how dairy is treated as a =
side
dish or drink, which may be how it comes in the form of milk, yogurt or ice
cream, but people may have a problem knowing where cheese fits in.
Gastronomically it is probably seen as part of the protein component in a m=
eal.</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">- I wonder why fruit is not similarly treated. Inclu=
ding it
on the main plate reduces the power of the plate as a template.=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">- I wonder where potatoes fit in (vegetable? or play=
ing the
same gastronomic role as pasta or rice which are from grains?). Perhaps it =
is
different the USA but in the UK I don&#39;t think &#39;grains&#39; would be=
 accurately
understood.</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">But it&#39;s important not to be too picky about sim=
plified
solutions, if they do a good job in moving people in the right direction. T=
he
UK&#39;s five-a-day campaign (refers to portions of fruit or veg) has caugh=
t on
well and entered into the public consciousness, although I don&#39;t what a=
ctual
effect on consumption has resulted.</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I was involved with the development of the UK&#39;s =
national
food guide in the early 90s. A pyramid was compared with a plate, and no
significant difference in comprehension was found in a fairly comprehensive
task-based study involving over 2000 participants. A plate was chosen based=
 on
a marginal preference rather than performance.</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The design we used (the result of extensive negotati=
ons
involving health professionals, designers, government and the food industry=
,
rather than an =A0inspired creative process) was extremely detailed in its
portrayal of food, and was very compromised by political lobbying by the fo=
od
industry. In particular, fatty/sugary snacks were heavily defended and so
included in what purports to show a healthy diet.=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The UK&#39;s plate was poorly promoted, did not catc=
h on widely,
and has now virtually disappeared from view. Google struggled to find any
trace, except for this website:=A0<a href=3D"http://www.bdaweightwise.com/e=
ating/eating_diet.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.bdaweightwise.com/eati=
ng/eating_diet.html</a></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">and some journal articles such as this one:=A0<a hre=
f=3D"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17539873" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17539873</a></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

</div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">_____________________=
_____________<br>
<br>
Rob Waller=A0<br>
The Simplification Centre<br>
<br>
07850 665933<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email protected]</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.simplificationcentre.org.uk" target=3D"_blank">www.si=
mplificationcentre.org.uk</a><br>
<br>
</p>

</div>

</div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 3 Jun 2011, at 04:15, Frank Marchak wrote:</p>

</div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
</p>

<div>

<p><span lang=3D"EN-US">Greetings.</span></p>

<p><span lang=3D"EN-US">The United
States Department of Agriculture has replaced the Food Pyramid</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">=96
used to guide healthy food choices</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US">=96 with MyPlate (</span><a href=3D"http://www.choosemyplat=
e.gov/" target=3D"_blank"><span lang=3D"EN-US">www.choosemyplate.gov</span>=
</a><span lang=3D"EN-US">).</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span></p>


<p><span lang=3D"EN-US">While</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">some</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">cri=
ticisms
of the original</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">pyr=
amid</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">still remain</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">with
the new design</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">(e.g=
.,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">presented only i=
n
English, takes no account of level of exercise),</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">this is the first change
since the pyramid replaced</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">an equal quadrant square graphic
developed in the 1980s.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span></p>

<p><span lang=3D"EN-US">I have my own</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US">opinions
of</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">the
new approach, but wanted to query the</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US">caf=E9 to get the</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US">views
of other members.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">D=
oes this</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">design</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">present
a less complicated approach that</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US">can be understood by a
wider audience? Can people more readily comprehend a pie chart approach ver=
sus
a pyramidal</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">represe=
ntation?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Does the p=
late better
reflect new findings in</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">nutrition (e.g.,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S">perhaps
carbohydrates should not form the base of a balanced diet)? Are circles bet=
ter
received than</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US">trian=
gles?</span></p>

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<p><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thoughts?</span></p>

<p><span lang=3D"EN-US">Regards,</span></p>

<p><span lang=3D"EN-US">Frank</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" lang=3D"EN-US">------------------------=
--------------</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" lang=3D"EN-US">Frank
M. Marchak, Ph.D.</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" lang=3D"EN-US">Veridical
Research and Design Corporation</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" lang=3D"EN-US">211
West Main Street - Lower Level</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" lang=3D"EN-US">PO
Box 6503</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" lang=3D"EN-US">Bozeman,
MT 59771-6503 USA</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" lang=3D"EN-US">406.522.9045
: tel</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" lang=3D"EN-US">406.522.9048
: fax</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" lang=3D"EN-US">406.581.0870
: cel</span></p>

<p><a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" lang=3D"EN-US">www.vradc.com</span><=
/a></p>

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