Re: Kubuntu Launchpad Translations upstream and downstream to KDE

Børre Gaup <[email protected]> Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:18:26 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.internationalization.sami
Message-ID <3283707.tL1EL6Dphu@joralf-macbookpro>
Mandag 8.  oktober 2012 08.24.47 skrev Christopher Forster:

Sorry for the late answer.

> My question: Hi, the Ubuntu Northern Saami Translators team
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-se has been working on translatable
> templates. Could these be reported upstream to KDE? =


You can follow this howto on how to extract your translations from Launchpa=
d: =

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream#General_contribution_guidelin=
es

The upstream for North Saami KDE translations are the translations found in =

skolelinux' svn.

Here is a short outline of the steps you have to do to contribute your KDE =

translations upstream:

* Get an svn account: http://wiki.skolelinux.no/Bidra/SvnIntro (Look at the =

instructions below "For =E5 f=E5 en svn-konto:"
* The next step is to checkout: http://wiki.skolelinux.no/Bidra/SvnUt
* Place your translations in the correct directory (in one of the =

subdirectories in kde4/summit/se/summit/messages/)
* Then check in your work: http://wiki.skolelinux.no/Bidra/SvnInn

The North Saami, Norwegian nynorsk and Norwegian bokm=E5l translations on =

skolelinux' server are (after a general quality check) transferred to KDE's =

servers on a regular basis.

When the North Saami translations are complete enough[1] they will be offic=
ially =

released by KDE, then  all distributions (including Debian and Ubuntu) will =

include these translations.
 =

> Then when complete
> enough latter downstream to Debian?
> =


> I also see that it is recommended to be in KDE mailing lists which I'm
> not. I work mainly with Launchpad but also read: "Note: There are some
> web pages (like Launchpad Translations) that allow to translate KDE
> software. You should not use them since those translations are not
> shared with the rest of the community. If in doubt, please do not
> hesitate to mail the kde-i18n-doc mailing list."
> =


I would suggest that only software only available in Ubuntu should be =

translated using Launchpad, everything else should be done upstream.

Ubuntu uses the Debian installer to install Ubuntu. Translations done in th=
at =

part should be done upstream in Debian. This way you improve not only North =

Saami in Ubuntu, but also in Debian, Mint, Ubuntu itself and in countless =

other Debian based distributions.

As for KDE, I would strongly suggest that you do your work on skolelinux' =

servers. For the North Saami team it has been a great help to be a part of =

this infrastructure.

Most of the GUI software in Ubuntu is Gnome software, so I would suggest th=
at =

you do those translations in their upstream.

There are several benefits to this:
* The translations you do will be imported by Ubuntu on a regular basis any=
way =

(if complete enough)
* You will get some quality assurance and some guidance on the terminology =
(at =

least I would proof read your translations).
* Others that are interested in North Saami translations would be able to h=
elp =

out with translations because they are available outside Launchpad.

> See also: Debian Bug report logs - #627991 RFP: kde-l10n-se -- Northern
> Sami (se) localization files for KDE
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D627991
> =


[1] (The official rule for release versions says around 90% of kdelibs4.pot=
, 75% =

of desktop_kdelibs.pot and desktop_l10n.pot and around 75% of kdebase shoul=
d =

be translated in order to get into a release.)

Hope this is of some help to you.

Regards, =

B=F8rre Gaup