Re: a new developing from scratch?

Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>After about 18 months, I'm back to this list, supposedly for some 
>long period.
>
>We're in process of thinking about a hosting solution for our customers.
>This includes standard shared hosting services, like domains, mail, web, 
>resellers, databases etc., with full automation of all account and domain 
>creation and maintenance (so that the girls at the helpdesk do that all, 
>and admins drink more beer).
>  
>
i agree, we need more beer.

>What I don't like in Ispman is its code design. The concept of LDAP 
>database and distributed services is beautiful, but the implementation
>and its support is a pain in the neck.
>  
>
I think the bug picture is right, maybe some tricks could be done better 
now,
like remove perdition.
At this, from the outside, i think it could be a good idea freeze the 
actual ispman
and start a new project with a better design. Now some solutions are fully
supported by the new version of programs.

>What I don't like in Plesk or Ensim.... I don't exactly know, will look deeper 
>after my vacation. Anyway, it's not OpenSource, and bound to a limited 
>set of platforms. For example, Plesk deployment would mean throwing our 
>Sun SPARC boxes out the window.
>  
>
What i don't like from Plesk is the big price, and the addictional 
licences for
everithing. Also, u cannot use your own software solution. ISPman is 
compatible
wuth every software that use ldap.

>The dreamy Ispman-II would be nicely designed with one idea in mind:
>flexibility and extendability. The core engine which is not bound to any 
>specific task or platform, the pluggable drivers for different server software,
>
>interfaces for plugins everywhere, nice installer, good user and developer
>documentation, fast web interface,...
>  
>
Well i think we can do more using less. What actually ispman miss now is:

- It could be slow managing too many domains, maybe at this time we (you)
  know the problematics.

- An interface to manage databases per domain, but i think this could be 
easily
 done.

- A domcumentation and template design correlated with the actual software
  version. Since ISPman is mainly debian based, and since Debian is only 
one of
  the linux distribution used, i think at least 2 template versions are 
needed during
  installation, one for the older distribution and one for the newer.
  imho it's time to leave older programs. The bw compatibility with old 
ispman should
  cared by migration tools or something.

>
>What do you think? Am I dreaming too much, or it sounds like a realistic plan?
>
>  
>
It's only a time problem.


Greets

Daniele


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