Re: State of ispman?

Peter Curran <peteryc-/[email protected]> Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:40:10 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi All,
Has anyone really found a better alternative to ispman that supports cyrus =
imap and is enterprise, etc?
thank you, peter





--- On Thu, 12/17/09, Atif Ghaffar <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Atif Ghaffar <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Ispman-users] State of ispman?
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 10:41 AM

Hi Joerg, Hello All,

I also started a php based version called isp-director but also havent fini=
shed because of lack of time from my job and kids.

The only changes that must warrant a new release is rewrite with new code a=
nd a different layout but the features are already there that are needed.=
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Joerg Delker <[email protected]> wrote:
=0AHi Yves,
=0A
=0Alets face the hard truth.
=0A
=0ADespite minor bug fixes there has been no further development for
=0Aseveral months. That's mainly because ISPMan already does a good job
=0Awhere it fits and (at least for myself) lack of time for coding.
=0AWhile the overall architecture is nice, the code structure isn't, which
=0Amay hold off people invest time and passion into this project.
=0A
=0ALooking at alternatives myself, I haven't found an adequate successor
=0Ayet, that would follow similar architecture principles with a promising
=0Acode base. Suggestions welcome!
=0AI already started a new project myself (java+webservice based) that
=0Apicks up where ISPMan ended, but again due to lack of time this has not
=0Aadvanced far enough to make any suggestions here.
=0A
=0AISPMan as we know it, is certainly a dead end, since no new version will
=0Abe released anymore. I'm still committing bugfixes though, that come to
=0Amy notice. For existing deployments this may be ok for some time, but I
=0Awould not suggest any new installations (unless it fits your purpose
=0Aperfectly and you are eager to get your hands dirty with perl).
=0A
=0AIf anybody found other solutions, please feel free to post and discuss
=0Athem here - it won't distract too much from the other ispman-user traffi=
c ;)
=0A
=0ACheers
=0AJ=F6rg
=0A
=0A
=0AYves Serrano wrote:
=0A> Hi there (if anybody still is subscribed to this list...)
=0A>
=0A> I use ispman since 2004 and I really like this tool!
=0A> It's time to move too new servers, is ispman still the weapon of choic=
e?
=0A>
=0A> The user list is not that active, but a least there is a ispman releas=
e from this
=0A> year and not last year (but that will change soon...).
=0A>
=0A> Where are ispman users migrating to, or are you still using ispman for=
 future setups?
=0A> Is there an ispman successor? Ispdirector doesn't seems very active.
=0A> I looked at ispconfig 3, but I still prefer a solution with a REAL dir=
ectory server, like ispman with ldap!
=0A>
=0A>>From an architectural standpoint of view, I don't found anything bette=
r than ispman!
=0A> But it seems like a dead horse :-(
=0A>
=0A> So what are you doing?
=0A>
=0A> regards
=0A> Yves
=0A>
=0A>
=0A>
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Hi All,<br>Has anyone really found a better a=
lternative to ispman that supports cyrus imap and is enterprise, etc?<br>th=
ank you, peter<br><br><br><br><br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 12/17/09, Atif Ghaffar=
 <i>&lt;[email protected]&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"b=
order-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px=
;"><br>From: Atif Ghaffar &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [I=
spman-users] State of ispman?<br>To: [email protected]<br>=
Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 10:41 AM<br><br><div id=3D"yiv1027520122=
">Hi J<span class=3D"yiv1027520122ik">oerg, Hello All,<br><br>I also starte=
d a php based version called isp-director but also havent finished because =
of lack of time from my job and kids.<br><br>The only changes that must war=
rant a new release is rewrite with new code and a different layout but the =
features
 are already there that are needed. <br>=0A<br><br></span><br><br><div clas=
s=3D"yiv1027520122gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Joerg Delke=
r <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email protected]" t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"yiv1027520122gmail_quote" style=3D"bord=
er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-l=
eft: 1ex;">=0AHi Yves,<br>=0A<br>=0Alets face the hard truth.<br>=0A<br>=0A=
Despite minor bug fixes there has been no further development for<br>=0Asev=
eral months. That's mainly because ISPMan already does a good job<br>=0Awhe=
re it fits and (at least for myself) lack of time for coding.<br>=0AWhile t=
he overall architecture is nice, the code structure isn't, which<br>=0Amay =
hold off people invest time and passion into this project.<br>=0A<br>=0ALoo=
king at alternatives myself, I haven't found an adequate successor<br>=0Aye=
t, that would follow similar architecture principles with a promising<br>=
=0Acode base. Suggestions welcome!<br>=0AI already started a new project my=
self (java+webservice based) that<br>=0Apicks up where ISPMan ended, but ag=
ain due to lack of time this has not<br>=0Aadvanced far enough to make any =
suggestions here.<br>=0A<br>=0AISPMan as we know it, is certainly a dead en=
d, since no new version will<br>=0Abe released anymore. I'm still committin=
g bugfixes though, that come to<br>=0Amy notice. For existing deployments t=
his may be ok for some time, but I<br>=0Awould not suggest any new installa=
tions (unless it fits your purpose<br>=0Aperfectly and you are eager to get=
 your hands dirty with perl).<br>=0A<br>=0AIf anybody found other solutions=
, please feel free to post and discuss<br>=0Athem here - it won't distract =
too much from the other ispman-user traffic ;)<br>=0A<br>=0ACheers<br>=0AJ=
=F6rg<br>=0A<div><div></div><div class=3D"yiv1027520122h5"><br>=0A<br>=0AYv=
es Serrano wrote:<br>=0A&gt; Hi there (if anybody still is subscribed to th=
is list...)<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt; I use ispman since 2004 and I really like=
 this tool!<br>=0A&gt; It's time to move too new servers, is ispman still t=
he weapon of choice?<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt; The user list is not that active=
, but a least there is a ispman release from this<br>=0A&gt; year and not l=
ast year (but that will change soon...).<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt; Where are is=
pman users migrating to, or are you still using ispman for future setups?<b=
r>=0A&gt; Is there an ispman successor? Ispdirector doesn't seems very acti=
ve.<br>=0A&gt; I looked at ispconfig 3, but I still prefer a solution with =
a REAL directory server, like ispman with ldap!<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt;&gt;Fr=
om an architectural standpoint of view, I don't found anything better than =
ispman!<br>=0A&gt; But it seems like a dead horse :-(<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt;=
 So what are you doing?<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt; regards<br>=0A&gt; Yves<br>=
=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt; ----------------------------------=
--------------------------------------------<br>=0A&gt; Return on Informati=
on:<br>=0A&gt; Google Enterprise Search pays you back<br>=0A&gt; Get the fa=
cts.<br>=0A&gt; <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://p.sf.n=
et/sfu/google-dev2dev">http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev</a><br>=0A&gt; __=
_____________________________________________<br>=0A&gt; Ispman-users maili=
ng list<br>=0A&gt; <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:Ispman-users@lists=
.sourceforge.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3DIspman-users@l=
ists.sourceforge.net">[email protected]</a><br>=0A&gt; <a =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/li=
sts/listinfo/ispman-users">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/isp=
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mailto=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" href=
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