Re: Jetspeed Roadmap poll

On 01/17/2014 12:40 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
> On 01/17/2014 06:38 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>> I have created a poll in the Jetspeed Portal group on LinkedIn to confirm the
>> acceptability of the Jetspeed Roadmap.
>> Please visit http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Jetspeed-Portal-3347198 and let
>> David know whether you support the roadmap or have some topics that you want
>> considered.
>>
>> If you do not vote for the Roadmap, please add a comment to the Roadmap
>> discussion at
>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Jetspeed-Road-Map-2014-3347198.S.5828949445881905155
>>
>> describing your concerns.
>
> <ASF member hat on>
> While I think it is great to see the roadmap being discussed, I *strongly*
> disagree with this happening outside the Jetspeed mailing list(s).
>
> I don't think there is anything wrong with the LinkedIn group, but it shouldn't
> replace the community participation here.
>
> An important 'rule' at Apache is:
>    "if it didn't happen on the list, it didn't happen at all"
>
> So, anything which is discussed (and maybe even decided) externally (LinkedIn,
> Skype, f2f, whatever) which would be of importance to this community should be
> (also) reported/mirrored on the list.
>
> Also note that the ASF mailing lists are archived (for ever) so even future
> community members can review and find back old arguments, discussions, choices
> made. Using external 'sources' like LinkedIn groups or whatever, cuts out both
> current *and* future community members.
> </ASF member hat off>
>
> Ron, please don't take my remarks above as critique on *what* you are trying to
> do. I really think it is great you're trying to renew the community.
> My remark only concerns the *how*.

Another thing with the LinkedIn group I just experienced is that, while it is an 
'open group', it requires to have a LinkedIn account and be signed in to even 
access the content, and (thus) neither is any of that content indexed by public 
search engines.

The Apache (community) lists are publicly indexed and searchable as well as 
anonymously browsable through the ASF mail archives (or mirrors thereof).
And you even can post anonymously to these lists, only then going through 
moderation to prevent the lists from being spammed.

>
> Kind regards, Ate
>
>>
>> Show some love!
>>
>> Ron
>>
>