Re[2]: BeanShell and ant

One  of the beautiful things in OpenSource software is that anyone can come
up  with  initiatives...  they  either catch up or don't. Of course ANT has
some  drawbacks.  I  also  sometimes  need  simple  conditionals  which are
difficult  to make in ANT, although possible. Same thing with, mentioned by
you, imports of reusable components - ANT people are working on it, btw.

I  can  only wish you good luck with your idea. Don't get me wrong - I _am_
using BeanShell as a scripting language and I love it. I just don't believe
the application mentioned by you would be any better than what is available
already.

I really hope you will prove me wrong ;)

Dawid



LA> :: If it were _much_ more flexible... well, I doubt since you 
LA> :: can add your own
LA> :: scripted   tasks   (as   BeanShell  classes)  to  ANT  and  
LA> :: gain  the  same
LA> :: functionality.  I  also  personally  like  ANT's declarative 

LA> after you have wasted hoursread documentation, takes some time to
LA> itegrate, etc...

LA> ant is heavyweight, and i'm fed up with continuous ant documentation
LA> reading. it's obvious that there was no design when ant was written... 

LA> and i'm talking about big projects here. i need to compile generators,
LA> then run them, compile their output, partially deploy ear's based on
LA> what was recompiled, etc... and it would be a lot of help if i could
LA> write my custom dirty-check code, that can avoid some recompilation in
LA> some cases. currently i have to turn off dependencies in my build files
LA> because it would always end up in a complete recompile that takes some
LA> time...

LA> and i try to share build logic/configuration between projects which is
LA> again a pain with ant...

LA> :: style, so your concept  is not appealing to me. The more 
LA> :: complicated such scripts get, the harder it is to maintain them...

LA> my example below is declarative.

LA> and with proper helper classes those scripts would be simpler then an
LA> ant build file.

LA> 101



LA> :: Dawid
LA> :: 
LA> :: 
:: LA>> hello all,
LA> :: 
:: LA>> did anyone tought of creating some helper classes that 
LA> :: help building 
:: LA>> java (and all the usual things ant can do), and use 
LA> :: beanshell build 
:: LA>> scripts to replace ant?
LA> :: 
:: LA>> creating some dependency resolver, and things and we are 
LA> :: there where 
:: LA>> ant is now, plus the flexibility of a script language.
LA> :: 
:: LA>> things like:
LA> :: 
:: LA>> JavaCompiler jc = new JavaCompile(); jc.addClassPath("asd");
LA> :: 
:: LA>> DependencyResolver dr = new DependencyResolver();
LA> :: 
:: LA>> dr.add(
:: LA>> 	new Task("mytask") {
:: LA>> 		public void run()
:: LA>> 		{
:: LA>> 			jc.compile(new FileSet("asd"));
:: LA>> 		}
:: LA>> 	}
:: LA>> );
LA> :: 
:: LA>> dr.addDependency("mytask", "othertask,othertask2,asd");
LA> :: 
:: LA>> dr.run();
LA> :: 
:: LA>> etc... this is just a really quick brainstorm. how the 
LA> :: actual helper 
:: LA>> classes should work needs some thinking, but it would be 
LA> :: a lot much 
:: LA>> more flexible then ant.
LA> :: 
:: LA>> any ideas?
LA> :: 
:: LA>> 101
LA> :: 
:: LA>> ps: yes, i don't like ant and writing xml's only to make my life 
:: LA>> harder... :)


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