Re: BeanShell alternatives (was Re: Status of projectand adding 1.5 generics)

Nice idea but multiple forks divides the efforts and lessons the "rule
of increasing return" and features are no long combined into one
distribution.  Examples of projects that tried forking but stagnated
for this reason (among others) and converged are Emacs (e.g. GosMacs,
XEmacs, etc), FreeBSD (e.g. BSD/386).


seth lytle writes:
 > i don't see how any of this conflicts with beanshell2.
 > 
 > the code is in subversion.
 > join the project, create a branch.
 > cherry-pick any of the changes that fschmidt has made that you want,
 > ignore the rest.
 > "fix" whatever you want in your branch.
 > if you think your branch/vision might appeal to other people, mention
 > it on the wiki or on this list.
 > 
 > if you have a few "bugs" that you'd like fixed, and are willing to fix
 > one of them - post to the list and see if anyone will "trade" or work
 > with you. but given that there's no budget, and that beanshell works
 > for people as is (and i agree that at this point the implementation is
 > the spec), that's about the only leverage anyone has got
 > 
 > http://code.google.com/p/beanshell2
 > 
 > seth
 > 
 > 
 > On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Wade Chandler
 > <hwadechandler-beanshell-/[email protected]> wrote:
 > > ----- Original Message ----
 > >
 > >> From: David A. Lee <[email protected]>
 > >> To: fschmidt <[email protected]>; beanshell-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
 > >> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:28:00 PM
 > >> Subject: Re: [Beanshell-dev] BeanShell alternatives (was Re: Status of projectand adding 1.5 generics)
 > >>
 > >> >> I feel that the first step in Leading an offshoot of Beanshell is to make
 > >> >> and achieve agreement on a list of bugs to be fixed in the base of the
 > >> >> offshoot.
 > >> >>
 > >> >
 > >> > Why?  If everyone would just fix whatever bugs bother them in a common
 > >> > source repository, then we would all benefit.  This is why I set up
 > >> > BeanShell2.  Whenever I run into a bug that affects me, I fix it there.  I
 > >> > wish others would do the same.
 > >>
 > >> Because with something like beanshell there is no formal specification.
 > >> That means one person's bug is anothers feature.   In  a program like
 > >> beanshell,
 > >> its current implementation is the 'defacto standard'.
 > >>
 > >> Certianly there are a class of bugs that we all would agree are truely bugs,
 > >> but I suggest there is a huge wider range of "things I think are wrong" that
 > >> others would disagree.
 > >> For some programs and people thats fine for others it is not.
 > >> For example, I would stop using Java or C if anyone who thought there was a
 > >> "bug" decided to "fix" it.
 > >>
 > >> There's good reasons for annoying painful slow beuracracies ... especially
 > >> when the original innovator is no longer participating.
 > >>
 > >>
 > >
 > > I'll agree with that. Seems perhaps like Tomcat does, maybe multiple versions which just get patches applied for issues in that version would be good.
 > >
 > > Wade
 > >
 > >
 > >
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