Re: Re: GCJ ------ file type not supported by system

Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia <[email protected]> Thu, 4 Sep 2014 23:31:53 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.classpath.devel,gmane.comp.gcc.java.devel
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El jueves, 4 de septiembre de 2014, Andrew Haley <[email protected]> escribi=
=C3=B3:

> On 09/04/2014 09:07 PM, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > El jueves, 4 de septiembre de 2014, Pekka Enberg <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>> escribi=C3=B3:
> >>> No, it's really not unfair at all. You are basically saying Andrew is
> >>> doing a crappy job as a maintainer
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia
> > <[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> No, I am definitely NOT saying that, nothing even close. Please don't
> put
> >> your words in my mouth, thank you.
> >
> > Of course you are saying that. Why else would you even bring up the
> > issue of finding a "competent successor" which implies that Andrew is
> > no longer interested in GNU Classpath and neglecting its maintenance?
>
> Whoa Pekka, be nice.  Let's just assume that Guillermo is sincere, and
> he wants to help.


Thank you Andrew. Yes I am sincere and want to help.


>
> The problem isn't competence.  All of us are competent.  It's a lack of
> time.


Yes. Never wanted to suggest the opposite.


> All of us, I believe, have day jobs, and none of them are in GNU
> Classpath development.


> > El jueves, 4 de septiembre de 2014, Pekka Enberg <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>> escribi=C3=B3:
> >>> Once you answer the hypothetical question *who* should
> >>> be the successor, you will understand why.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia
> > <[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> I see, so if I don't have the answer, the question makes no sense. Ok.
> >
> > You didn't even try to answer the question, did you?
> >
> > If Andrew actually needed a "competent successor" (he doesn't), what
> > is required of that person? The person needs to be an active
> > developer, needs to understand GNU Classpath well, and has to have
> > support from people who actually developed the project, right?
> >
> > Are you able to make an educated guess who actually meets that criteria=
?
>
> Guillermo, please.  You phrased your point badly, in a way that was likel=
y
> to annoy people.  I believe that you didn't want to do that.


Sorry for that. I apologize if my words annoyed anyone.  It was not my
intention.

Guillermo


> Everyone: let's have a proper discussion.  Is there something we can
> do with GNU Classpath that takes it further forward.  And, if so,
> what?  What would our goals be?
>
> Andrew.
>


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<br><br>El jueves, 4 de septiembre de 2014, Andrew Haley &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; escribi=C3=B3:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
On 09/04/2014 09:07 PM, Pekka Enberg wrote:<br>
&gt; El jueves, 4 de septiembre de 2014, Pekka Enberg &lt;<a href=3D"javasc=
ript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, &#39;cvml&#39;, &#39;[email protected]&#39;)"=
>[email protected]</a>&gt; escribi=C3=B3:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; No, it&#39;s really not unfair at all. You are basically sayin=
g Andrew is<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; doing a crappy job as a maintainer<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, &#39;cvml&#39;, &#39=
;[email protected]&#39;)">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
&gt;&gt; No, I am definitely NOT saying that, nothing even close. Please do=
n&#39;t put<br>
&gt;&gt; your words in my mouth, thank you.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Of course you are saying that. Why else would you even bring up the<br=
>
&gt; issue of finding a &quot;competent successor&quot; which implies that =
Andrew is<br>
&gt; no longer interested in GNU Classpath and neglecting its maintenance?<=
br>
<br>
Whoa Pekka, be nice.=C2=A0 Let&#39;s just assume that Guillermo is sincere,=
 and<br>
he wants to help.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thank you Andrew. Yes I a=
m sincere and want to help.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">

<br>
The problem isn&#39;t competence.=C2=A0 All of us are competent.=C2=A0 It&#=
39;s a lack of<br>
time.=C2=A0=C2=A0</blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote><=
div><br></div><div>Yes. Never wanted to suggest the opposite.=C2=A0</div><d=
iv>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
All of us, I believe, have day jobs, and none of them are in GNU<br>
Classpath development.<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style>=C2=A0</span><=
/blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
&gt; El jueves, 4 de septiembre de 2014, Pekka Enberg &lt;<a href=3D"javasc=
ript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, &#39;cvml&#39;, &#39;[email protected]&#39;)"=
>[email protected]</a>&gt; escribi=C3=B3:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Once you answer the hypothetical question *who* should<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; be the successor, you will understand why.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, &#39;cvml&#39;, &#39=
;[email protected]&#39;)">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
&gt;&gt; I see, so if I don&#39;t have the answer, the question makes no se=
nse. Ok.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You didn&#39;t even try to answer the question, did you?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If Andrew actually needed a &quot;competent successor&quot; (he doesn&=
#39;t), what<br>
&gt; is required of that person? The person needs to be an active<br>
&gt; developer, needs to understand GNU Classpath well, and has to have<br>
&gt; support from people who actually developed the project, right?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Are you able to make an educated guess who actually meets that criteri=
a?<br>
<br>
Guillermo, please.=C2=A0 You phrased your point badly, in a way that was li=
kely<br>
to annoy people.=C2=A0 I believe that you didn&#39;t want to do that.</bloc=
kquote><div><br></div><div>Sorry for that. I apologize if my words annoyed =
anyone.=C2=A0=C2=A0It was not my intention.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=
Guillermo<span></span></div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Everyone: let&#39;s have a proper discussion.=C2=A0 Is there something we c=
an<br>
do with GNU Classpath that takes it further forward.=C2=A0 And, if so,<br>
what?=C2=A0 What would our goals be?<br>
<br>
Andrew.<br>
</blockquote><br><br>-- <br>Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia<br><a href=3D"mailto=
:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br>

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