Re: Tools for J2EE Project

Exactly...do you know of such a tool, Dmitri?
BTW, ideally the tool would also read the ejb doclet tags to determine the=
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JNDI name of the bean, etc...and just generate a .java file that can be=20
executed...and if it created a Cactus servlet .java file, that would be=20
incredibly cool...


At 01:41 PM 3/27/2002 +1100, you wrote:
>what sort of testing would you like to see XDoclet support?
>
>are you thinking something like
>
>/**
>  * @ejb:interface-method
>  * @junit-j2ee ...
>  * @junit-j2ee parameter name=3D"a" value=3D"foo"
>  * @junit-j2ee parameter name=3D"b" value=3D"bar"
>  */
>public void myMethodToBeTested(String a, String b)
>{
>   ...
>}
>
>or what?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Francis Purcell" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:46 AM
>Subject: RE: [EJB-Developer] Tools for J2EE Project
>
>
>Wow, it's quite here...I wonder what's going on a JavaONE???
>
>Anyway, totally agree with you, Mushtaq.  JUnit is *the* tool for
>testing...  Jakarta Cactus is built on top of JUnit, and has a TestServlet
>class which your test-case extends, such that your test case is running as
>a servlet in a J2EE container, as compared to your test running as a simpl=
e
>java client in a private test JVM.   This is my prefreed way test EJBs,
>since this Servlet 2 EJB scenario better represents how my EJBs are being=
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>used.
>
>BTW, anyone know of any *free* test tools that will allow you to define
>your tests via JavaDoc tags ala XDoclet?  (I know of one tool whose name
>escapes me , but said tool has a license fee & proprietary execution
>environment attached).  What about performance measuring tools for server
>side components?
>
>Cheers,
>Frank
>
>
>At 04:21 AM 3/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Also JUnit for unit testing...
> >
> >www.junit.org
> >
> >Regards,
> >Mushtaq
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:       Francis Purcell[SMTP:[email protected]]
> > > Reply To:       [email protected]
> > > Sent:       Sunday, March 24, 2002 12:47 AM
> > > To:       [email protected]
> > > Subject:       Re: [EJB-Developer] Tools for J2EE Project
> > >
> > > Hi Sundar,
> > >
> > > Ant & XDoclet are requirements for everything J2EE I now do :
> > >
> > >    Apache Ant -- of course...so many options in this thing, it's
> > > unbelievable (my favorite lesser know options is being able to turn t=
abs
> > > in
> > > your source code into x-number of spaces).  I'm pretty sure there are=
 VSS
> > > options native to Ant...if not, you may want to look at using CVS if =
at
> > > all
> > > possible.
> > >    XDoclet
> > (<http://xdoclet.sourceforge.net)>http://xdoclet.sourceforge.net) --
> > invaluable, especially when
> > >
> > > developing EJBs (I think there are tags for Orion, which I'd assume w=
orks
> > > with Oracle...if not, someone either has templates they can give you,=
 or
> > > it
> > > would be worth building your own).
> > >
> > > A good J2EE unit testing tool is Apache's Cactus, but I don't have en=
ough
> > > experience with it to call it a requirement.  I too would like to kno=
w
> > > what
> > > other testing tools (especially performance testing) people are using=
...
> > >
> > > As to meeting a schedule without fail, I don't think I'm the best per=
son
> > > to
> > > answer this question :-).   I find inspiration in many extreme=20
> programming
> > >
> > > concepts around managing expectations, especially where you involve t=
he
> > > client to determine what the requirements are, and the developers in
> > > determining how long each requirement will take...then negotiating wi=
th
> > > the
> > > client and letting them determine the trade offs between time and
> > > functionality.   Take a look at:
> > >
> >=20
> <http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtremeProgrammingSummary>http://www.c2.com/c=
gi/wiki?ExtremeProgrammingSummary
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > > Frank
> > >
> > > p.s., In preparing for this project, I would allocate time for you an=
d
> > > your
> > > developers to learn the tools.  Don't just run through the examples t=
hat
> > > come with the tools (unless you want to build a false sense of
> > > confidence).  Rather, take the examples and build new things on top o=
f
> > > them.  Mimic what you are going to be doing on this project (servlets=
,
> > > ejbs, etc...), and really exercise your knowledge of the tools (e.g.,=
 use
> > > ant to create a build system full of build rules for your prototype=20
> ejbs &
> > >
> > > servlets; use XDoclet to create deployment descriptors and home/remot=
e
> > > interfaces for those prototypes; create a single rule in ant that bui=
lds
> > > your code from scratch, starts your J2EE server, deploys your=20
> jar/war/ear,
> > >
> > > runs your unit test, strips any tabs in your code, and check the chan=
ges
> > > into VSS, etc...).  Knowing as much about how these things work (and =
how
> > > they don't) before you enter panic mode is a big plus...  BTW, there =
are
> > > some pretty good presentation tools out there, and more coming out ev=
ery
> > > day (
> > > advice, Oracle AS may do some things very very well, but it probably =
does
> > > not do everything you need.
> > >
> > >
> > > At 09:56 AM 3/23/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Dear Developers,
> > > >
> > > >I am about to lead a J2EE project. I would like to know a list of be=
st
> > > >tools that I should get hold of. As we are going with Oracle9i as=20
> the app
> > >
> > > >server. So for IDE we are going for JDeveloper. For Version control =
I am
> > > >thinking to use Visual Source Safe. I would like to know the appropr=
iate
> > > >tools for Desinging, Project management, Testing including functiona=
l,
> > > >load testing, performance testing.  I would appriciate if U guys can=
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> give
> > >
> > > >inputs as how should I proceed managing the project as the cilent wa=
nts
> > > us
> > > >to meet the deadline without fail. Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > >Regards
> > > >
> > > >Sundar.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
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