Re: Tools for J2EE Project

I can personally testify to usefulness of the Bean-test tool.  We=20
were using JUnit before, and we still do a bit.  However, Beantest=20
does performance testing, too.  It auto generates the tests for you.=20=20
We have been using it for close to 9 months now.  Note, it is a=20
commercial product and not freeware, but if you want or need to test=20
your EJB middleware and backend thoroughly, it's good.=20

When we were thinking of purchasing it, I found a review of Bean-test=20
by some guy at a Java User's Group.
http://www.nejug.org/reviews

I also like JProbe for finding memory leaks but have limited hands-on=20
with it so far.  We used it once to find the leak after Bean-test=20
isolated the problem.

-jason


--- In EJB-Developer@y..., sriharirao Bh <lionsri@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
> You can try Emirix's Beantest for testing EJBs
> directly with out going for any Client code.This is
> automated test tool for ejb performance and functional
> testing.U can testwith Weblogic ,websphere servers and
> u can increase load and change baseline,method sequece
> etc.
> Pl visit www.empirix.com for latest trial download.
> Sriharirao
> --- Francis Purcell <francis_purcell@y...> wrote:
> > Wow, it's quite here...I wonder what's going on a
> > JavaONE???
> >=20
> > Anyway, totally agree with you, Mushtaq.  JUnit is
> > *the* tool for=20
> > testing...  Jakarta Cactus is built on top of JUnit,
> > and has a TestServlet=20
> > class which your test-case extends, such that your
> > test case is running as=20
> > a servlet in a J2EE container, as compared to your
> > test running as a simple=20
> > java client in a private test JVM.   This is my
> > prefreed way test EJBs,=20
> > since this Servlet 2 EJB scenario better represents
> > how my EJBs are being used.
> >=20
> > BTW, anyone know of any *free* test tools that will
> > allow you to define=20
> > your tests via JavaDoc tags ala XDoclet?  (I know of
> > one tool whose name=20
> > escapes me , but said tool has a license fee &
> > proprietary execution=20
> > environment attached).  What about performance
> > measuring tools for server=20
> > side components?
> >=20
> > Cheers,
> > Frank
> >=20
> >=20
> > At 04:21 AM 3/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Also JUnit for unit testing...
> > >
> > >www.junit.org
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Mushtaq
> > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From:       Francis
> > Purcell[SMTP:francis_purcell@y...]
> > > > Reply To:       EJB-Developer@y...
> > > > Sent:       Sunday, March 24, 2002 12:47 AM
> > > > To:       EJB-Developer@y...
> > > > Subject:       Re: [EJB-Developer] Tools for
> > J2EE Project
> > > >
> > > > Hi Sundar,
> > > >
> > > > Ant & XDoclet are requirements for everything
> > J2EE I now do :
> > > >
> > > >    Apache Ant -- of course...so many options in
> > this thing, it's
> > > > unbelievable (my favorite lesser know options is
> > being able to turn tabs
> > > > in
> > > > your source code into x-number of spaces).  I'm
> > pretty sure there are VSS
> > > > options native to Ant...if not, you may want to
> > look at using CVS if at
> > > > all
> > > > possible.
> > > >    XDoclet=20
> > >
> >
> (<http://xdoclet.sourceforge.net)>http://xdoclet.sourceforge.net)
> > --=20
> > > invaluable, especially when
> > > >
> > > > developing EJBs (I think there are tags for
> > Orion, which I'd assume works
> > > > with Oracle...if not, someone either has
> > templates they can give you, or
> > > > it
> > > > would be worth building your own).
> > > >
> > > > A good J2EE unit testing tool is Apache's
> > Cactus, but I don't have enough
> > > > experience with it to call it a requirement.  I
> > too would like to know
> > > > what
> > > > other testing tools (especially performance
> > testing) people are using...
> > > >
> > > > As to meeting a schedule without fail, I don't
> > think I'm the best person
> > > > to
> > > > answer this question :-).   I find inspiration
> > in many extreme programming
> > > >
> > > > concepts around managing expectations,
> > especially where you involve the
> > > > client to determine what the requirements are,
> > and the developers in
> > > > determining how long each requirement will
> > take...then negotiating with
> > > > the
> > > > client and letting them determine the trade offs
> > between time and
> > > > functionality.   Take a look at:
> > > >=20
> > >
> >
> <http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?
ExtremeProgrammingSummary>http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?
ExtremeProgrammingSummary
> > > >
> > > > Good luck,
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> > > > p.s., In preparing for this project, I would
> > allocate time for you and
> > > > your
> > > > developers to learn the tools.  Don't just run
> > through the examples that
> > > > come with the tools (unless you want to build a
> > false sense of
> > > > confidence).  Rather, take the examples and
> > build new things on top of
> > > > them.  Mimic what you are going to be doing on
> > this project (servlets,
> > > > ejbs, etc...), and really exercise your
> > knowledge of the tools (e.g., use
> > > > ant to create a build system full of build rules
> > for your prototype ejbs &
> > > >
> > > > servlets; use XDoclet to create deployment
> > descriptors and home/remote
> > > > interfaces for those prototypes; create a single
> > rule in ant that builds
> > > > your code from scratch, starts your J2EE server,
> > deploys your jar/war/ear,
> > > >
> > > > runs your unit test, strips any tabs in your
> > code, and check the changes
> > > > into VSS, etc...).  Knowing as much about how
> > these things work (and how
> > > > they don't) before you enter panic mode is a big
> > plus...  BTW, there are
> > > > some pretty good presentation tools out there,
> > and more coming out every
> > > > day (
> > > > advice, Oracle AS may do some things very very
> > well, but it probably does
> > > > not do everything you need.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 09:56 AM 3/23/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Dear Developers,
> > > > >
> > > > >I am about to lead a J2EE project. I would like
> > to know a list of best
> > > > >tools that I should get hold of. As we are
> > going with Oracle9i as the app
> > > >
> > > > >server. So for IDE we are going for JDeveloper.
> > For Version control I am
> > > > >thinking to use Visual Source Safe. I would
> > like to know the appropriate
> > > > >tools for Desinging, Project management,
> > Testing including functional,
> > > > >load testing, performance testing.  I would
> > appriciate if U guys can give
> > > >
> > > > >inputs as how should I proceed managing the
> > project as the cilent wants
> > > > us
> > > > >to meet the deadline without fail. Thanks in
> > advance.
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >Sundar.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
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