Re: Newbie: Which startup docs to use?

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Jacques,

you have to use the maven buildsystem. Ant isn't working anymore.

The HOJ tutorial is the only one out there. The other is to look at
app-crud, app-scheduler as examples.

The project.xml for HOJ may not be as up to date as the one for the default
project.
So, start with the keel-build/example-projects/default project,
and make sure you get it to build/deploy fine. Once deployed, make sure
to login as "root/root" and try out CRUD/POLL etc.

Once there, instead of copying the project.xml from app-hoj, just add a
dependency for app-hoj manually into default's project.xml.

HTH,
-Raj

On 10/20/05, keel.jsmit-4WVpuZSLeeJWk0Htik3J/[email protected] <keel.jsmit-4WVpuZSLeeJWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> From what I have learned and seen as to what Keel provides, our company i=
s
> most
> likely going to use Keel as our platform for development. But after a wee=
k
> of wading
> through documentation and source code I still can't get a working Keel
> demo going.
> I would like to demonstrate an existing working system, locally build, to
> convince my
> colleagues that Keel is the way to go.
>
> I have installed Eclipse 3.1 on Windows XP with Java SDK 1.4.2., Ant 1.6.=
5,
> Maven
> 1.0.2. I have tried the following:
>
> a) I downloaded the Keel app on sourceforge (Helm 1.8) and the graphical
> Keel App
> starts, but I can't find the documentation to say how I should use it. I
> tried the menu
> entries, but it does not make sense.
>
> b) I read wiki documentation that says one should start with Ant - but
> this fails
> halfway through (the builds cannot get everyting, etc).
>
> c) I discovered (in the forum) notes that says Maven is the way to go
> (contrary to the
> wiki Starting notes!), so I worked through chapter 13. The interaction
> between
> Maven/Eclipse is not clear to me (yet), but if I run maven from the
> commandline it
> complains about some jars that it can't get (others it did download). If =
I
> run it inside
> Eclipse (as an External tool), I get similar problems.
>
> My Questions:
> a) Should I continue with the maven route?
> b) Which documentation set is the nearest to the real thing?
>
> I may come back with more specific questions after I have clarity on the
> above
>
> Any help/pointers will be appreciated
>
> Jacques Smit
>
> http://keelframework.org/documentation.shtml
> Keelgroup mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://lists.keelframework.com/listinfo.cgi/keelgroup-keelframework.com
>

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Jacques,<br>
<br>
you have to use the maven buildsystem. Ant isn't working anymore.<br>
<br>
The HOJ tutorial is the only one out there.&nbsp; The other is to look at<b=
r>
app-crud, app-scheduler as examples.<br>
<br>
The project.xml for HOJ may not be as up to date as the one for the default=
 project.&nbsp; <br>
So, start with the keel-build/example-projects/default project,<br>
and make sure you get it to build/deploy fine.&nbsp; Once deployed, make su=
re<br>
to login as &quot;root/root&quot; and try out CRUD/POLL etc.<br>
<br>
Once there, instead of copying the project.xml from app-hoj, just add a<br>
dependency for app-hoj manually into default's project.xml.<br>
<br>
HTH,<br>
-Raj<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 10/20/05, <b class=3D"gmail=
_sendername"><a href=3D"mailto:keel.jsmit-4WVpuZSLeeJWk0Htik3J/[email protected]">keel.jsmit@neverbox=
.com</a></b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:keel.jsmit-4WVpuZSLeeJWk0Htik3J/[email protected]">keel.jsmit@neve=
rbox.com
</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-lef=
t: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1=
ex;">Hi,<br><br>From what I have learned and seen as to what Keel provides,=
 our company is most
<br>likely going to use Keel as our platform for development. But after a w=
eek of wading<br>through documentation and source code I still can't get a =
working Keel demo going.<br>I would like to demonstrate an existing working=
 system, locally build, to convince my
<br>colleagues that Keel is the way to go.<br><br>I have installed Eclipse =
3.1 on Windows XP with Java SDK 1.4.2., Ant 1.6.5, Maven<br>1.0.2.&nbsp;&nb=
sp;I have tried the following:<br><br>a) I downloaded the Keel app on sourc=
eforge (Helm=20
1.8) and the graphical Keel App<br>starts, but I can't find the documentati=
on to say how&nbsp;&nbsp;I should use it. I tried the menu<br>entries, but =
it does not make sense.<br><br>b) I read wiki documentation that says one s=
hould start with Ant - but this fails
<br>halfway through (the builds cannot get everyting, etc).<br><br>c) I dis=
covered (in the forum) notes that says Maven is the way to go (contrary to =
the<br>wiki Starting notes!), so I worked through chapter 13. The interacti=
on between
<br>Maven/Eclipse is not clear to me (yet), but if I run maven from the com=
mandline it<br>complains about some jars that it can't get (others it did d=
ownload). If I run it inside<br>Eclipse (as an External tool), I get simila=
r problems.
<br><br>My Questions:<br>a) Should I continue with the maven route?<br>b) W=
hich documentation set is the nearest to the real thing?<br><br>I may come =
back with more specific questions after I have clarity on the above<br>
<br>Any help/pointers will be appreciated<br><br>Jacques Smit<br><br><a hre=
f=3D"http://keelframework.org/documentation.shtml">http://keelframework.org=
/documentation.shtml</a><br>Keelgroup mailing list<br><a href=3D"mailto:Kee=
[email protected]">
[email protected]</a><br><a href=3D"http://lists.keelframew=
ork.com/listinfo.cgi/keelgroup-keelframework.com">http://lists.keelframewor=
k.com/listinfo.cgi/keelgroup-keelframework.com</a><br></blockquote></div>
<br>

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