Re: [nbdt] Re: [nbboard] Re: NetBeans Governance [was: [n b d t] Conversations during JFokus]

On 24/02/2011, at 5:15 AM, Tom Wheeler wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Ashwin Rao <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Maybe my understanding may be not aligned with other
>> opinions here, but I believe the Governance board's charter as defined
>> currently is primarily in the role of an adjudicator in times of conflict.
> 
> Yes, that is what it currently says, but as you noted, it hasn't been
> reviewed or edited in years.  When you wrote "I do agree that the
> governance model needs to be reviewed, and this is as good a time as
> any to initiate conversations on this" I got the impression we were
> discussing the future and not the past.  If not, please let me know
> when those conversations do take place so I can join them.

Your raise a relevant point, but I was trying to clarify if the concern was whether this was broken in the current model, as in, the current model defined a charter that was more than what I understood it to state. 

> 
> In my view, there should be the possibility of meaningful community
> involvement in pretty much any aspect of the NetBeans project.  I
> would hope a Governance Board would have an interest in ensuring
> that's the case.

The governance model is clear on the intent that there should be community participation, but as it states itself,  the model has been intentionally kept light weight. The board on the other hand, in my point of view, in the current model, is primarily in place as an arbitrator. 
> 
>> The forum-based interface to the
>> mailing lists doesn't show message context, so replies sent that way
>> often make no sense at all.  Furthermore, the search interface to the
>> mailing lists is slow, weak and hard to use.
>> 
>> Has this feedback been provided perhaps as an Issue?
> 
> These points have been mentioned many times by others on public
> NetBeans mailing lists (though this was the only time I did so), so
> indeed this feedback has been provided.  I can't say whether those
> people requested resolution, but I'll make a point of filing issues
> for them this week.

Thank you.