Re: NetBeans: No longer working backwards?

On 22-4-2011 11:43, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
> I fully agree. It's sad that Geertjan has to say this.
>
> We all know that the NetBeans Team is formed by great people.
>
> But for Geertjan, of course, who never comes to Spain to have some 
> tapas ;-p

I would come immediately if there was a training to be held there!

Gj

>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> El 22/04/11 11:37, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> On the contrary. I think you will find that someone named Jaroslav
>> Tulach under Sun is still named Jaroslav Tulach under Oracle. And that
>> the content of Jaroslav Tulach is also the same as it was before. The
>> same is true for me. I am no different under Oracle to what I was under
>> Sun. You'll find that this is true for everybody.
>>
>> And, in fact, the idea that Tom describes, of "Working Backwards", is
>> completely unrelated to Sun. It was something that Jaroslav thought up
>> himself. So, it's maybe time to stop thinking that ex-Sun employees have
>> suddenly transmogrified into something evil just because they're now
>> working for Oracle.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On 22-4-2011 11:30, Alex Lam S.L. wrote:
>>> I think you will find, as with all former projects from Sun, Oracle
>>> has ceased honest and direct communications with the community as
>>> there is no money in doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>> Alex.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Tom Wheeler <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I really enjoyed the section about "Working Backwards" in Jaroslav
>>>> Tulach's API Design book. For those that are still waiting on their
>>>> copy of this excellent book to arrive, it suggests a novel approach of
>>>> staying focused to achieve an important goal. To work backwards, you
>>>> write a press release now which explains all the valuable features of
>>>> the software you're getting ready to write. That press release is
>>>> dated with your expected release date, the implication being that
>>>> you'll know you've been successful if the press release is still
>>>> accurate when you ship your code.
>>>>
>>>> Although Jaroslav didn't originate this technique, he did apply it to
>>>> NetBeans starting with NetBeans 6.1. I don't think it's a coincidence
>>>> that the IDE has seen a lot of improvement since then. Here are some
>>>> examples from the last several production releases:
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/Fitness69PressRelease
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/Fitness68PressRelease
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/Fitness67PressRelease
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/Fitness65PressRelease
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/Fitness61PressRelease
>>>>
>>>> However, I was not able to find one for NetBeans 7.0, nor have I see
>>>> one for NetBeans 7.1. I thought "working backwards" was a good way to
>>>> plan features and to communicate this information to interested people
>>>> -- it was in the "Teamwork" chapter after all -- so I am curious why
>>>> this approach seems to be abandoned.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Tom Wheeler
>>>> http://www.tomwheeler.com/
>>>>
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