Re: Apache proposal for NetBeans

On 13-9-2016 20:52, geertjan wielenga wrote:
>
> On 13-9-2016 20:44, Ivan Soleimanipour wrote:
>> On 09/13/16 01:36, geertjan wielenga wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> A heads up -- we'd like to simplify and streamline the process of 
>>> contributing
>>> and being part of the NetBeans ecosystem.
>>>
>>> The current NetBeans governance model is quite opaque and invisible 
>>> and we think
>>
>> Who is "we"?
>> The proposal says "Incubator votes on the proposal" ... won't NB 
>> itself get a vote?


PS: No, NetBeans doesn't get a vote. That's standard Apache rules -- a 
project submits a proposal to the incubator and then the incubator 
program management committee discusses the proposal, gets more details 
from the project, and then votes on accepting it into incubation.




>>
>> Who solicited whom in other words?
>
> The starting point was that we (i.e., Oracle, NetBeans) wanted to 
> simplify the process of getting code contributions from the community 
> and broaden participation in NetBeans in general. Apache was the first 
> logical choice and then we discussed we contacts we had in Apache 
> about whether that would be a good move. Very quickly, all sides saw 
> the possibilities and were enthusiastic.
>
>
>>
>>
>>> having our project be an Apache project, like Apache Maven and 
>>> Apache Groovy, is
>>> a sensible direction to that end.
>>>
>>> Here's the proposal published over the past hour:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal
>>>
>>> Take note of the many initial committers, which includes James 
>>> Gosling (father
>>> of Java), a range of developers from various organizations, as well 
>>> as a big
>>> group from Oracle.
>>
>> Why are managers and directors part of that list?
>
> Being a contributor is more than contributing code. It's 
> documentation, ideas, direction, etc.
>
> At this point, we have an initial list of committers, which we'll 
> extend with more after incubation proposal is accepted, which could be 
> in a few days. Once the proposal is accepted, we enter incubation, and 
> then licenses and all kinds of other things, e.g., the migration of 
> the infrastructure will be figured out in detail. On a high level 
> we've come to agreement on several things already and identified some 
> stumbling blocks and potential solutions, etc.
>
> Gj
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> There's a LOT that needs to be done, though the proposal makes the 
>>> intentions clear.
>>>
>>> Onwards to exciting times,
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Geertjan Wielenga
>>>
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