Re: Language infrastructure (reloaded)

Thanks, JMB, I also quite curious to know.   

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Від кого: "Jean-Marc Borer" <[email protected]> 
Дата: 8 листопада 2016, 10:18:02 

OK reading through the  following pages: 
http://wiki.netbeans.org/ GsfToParsingAndIndexingApiMigr ation 
http://wiki.netbeans.org/ParsingAPI 
http://wiki.netbeans.org/How_to_create_support_for_a_new_language 
and   "Rich Client Programming: Plugging into the NetBeans Platform " book 
Is it correct if I state that CSL is the way to go for new languages? Or is it only limited to "scripting" languages. For example, in my IDE, I can only find CSL plugins for HTLM, CSS, sql, yaml and some others. Ruby and Java are not listed. 
Does it mean, they don't use the CSL API, because: 1) it doesn't fit their more advanced needs or  2) they use an older API and the effort to migrate them is too big? 
I just need a bit of info here, just to not write stupid things later. ;-) 
Appreciate you help 
JMB 

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Jean-Marc Borer < [email protected] > wrote: 
Thank you Gj, I was thinking my post ended up in /dev/null ;) 
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:49 PM, geertjan wielenga < [email protected] > wrote: 

More: http://wiki.netbeans.org/GsfTo ParsingAndIndexingApiMigration 

Gj 

On 7-11-2016 13:48, geertjan wielenga wrote: 

History of language infrastructure: https://blogs.oracle.com/geert jan/entry/lexer 

Gj 

On 7-11-2016 13:43, geertjan wielenga wrote: 

Lots of people are interested in this. :-) Just a question of time etc. 

Gj 

On 7-11-2016 13:40, Jean-Marc Borer wrote: 
Ok, so no one seems interested in this topic then... 
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Jean-Marc Borer < [email protected] > wrote: 
Hello members, 
I know, it was already partly discussed in the thread  http://forums.netbeans. org/viewtopic.php?t=65697&high light=language+infrastructure 
I wanted to start porting my simple language stucture based on the book  "Rich Client Programming: Plugging into the NetBeans Platform " to a modern approach and try to document it as a or several tutorials. 
Reading through the thread again to refresh my memory, I will probably base my work on Quorum language (Thank yous Stefik) as well as what I can find at  https://github.com/Geertjan Wielenga/Python4NetBeans .  
I hope those projects use the "most" state of the art implementation for a new language support.  @Stefik and Geertjan, do you agree with this statement? 
Now there are still some questions that I would like to be answered to be able to write a "clean" tutorial. Googling around and using information stored in my spongy memory ;), there is/were different language APIs in NB history. 
First there is the old "roots" way described in Rich Client Programming book that I used in the first place. Then there was Schliemann which seems to be discontinued. Then came GSF which is partly documented/used in the NB tutorials. But now it seems it is also becoming deprecated. Now there is CSL.  
Is CSL the new language infrastructure? It seems to have GSF parts in it, since the csl.api readme.txt fle still makes references to GSF. 
Now I am lost. Can someone here out explain me: 1) the history of the language infrastructures? 2) tell me what is infrastructure to use now (state of the art) and its name (I have a hint but would prefer that someone confirms my idea)? 
Help would be greatly appreciated. 
Cheers, 
Jean-Marc