[TF-dev] Re: Call for ideas/topics - NetBeans community translation leads call

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Hi,

Language teams may use Style Guides for translation, and announce its usage
in their own wiki:

   - Using Style Guides :
   http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nhome/Using+Style+Guides
   - Language Style Guides :
   http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nhome/Language+Style+Guides

PS: i.e. catalan style guide:
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/guia_e=
stil
PS: i.e. common translations into catalan :
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/llista=
t_termes

Regards,
Robert

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Filippo Mineo wrote:

> Hi Paul!
> I don't remember if you've ever heard from me, since I've been absent fro=
m
> the translation activities for a long time (at least more than a year for
> sure).
>
>
> > you have been doing all these in your spare time, in an unselfish manne=
r,
> not to mention that for languages we have only a single translator, you a=
re
> doing the work on your own, with no much help from others
> My situation is exactly the one you described. Unfortunately, I'm the onl=
y
> active Italian translator... oh well, the last who was active. I joined t=
he
> NB l10n team in a period when the study wasn't as demanding as it is now.
>
>
> Constantin's ideas about the topics to be discussed are valid. However, h=
e
> wrote:
> > Discuss about the internal teams functioning ( who is team leader , how
> many contributors by team, etc)
> but in many cases there is no "internal team", since everything is taken
> care of by a single person.
>
> If I had to explain briefly my opinion, I'd say that the problem consists
> mainly in the lack of sponsors for this project. When a language has a ba=
dly
> coordinated team (or even no team at all), the resulting translation is
> consequently bad. This happens because, even assuming all individuals' wo=
rk
> quality is high, everyone follows his own lexicon and "translation style"=
,
> so that the result becomes different when the underlying translator chang=
es.
> Of course giving such local directives is not the global team's
> responsibility. Anyway, returning to the main topic, many problems could =
be
> solved if contributors where more (numerically) and more coordinated, so
> that the project could count on a less discontinuous involvement.
>
> Although your meeting proposal is a praiseworty initiative, frankly I
> prefer not to take on a commitment. Meanwhile, let's hear if there are ot=
her
> suggestions.
>
> Hoping to get back active soon,
> arrivederci!
>
> Filippo Mineo
>



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AKA: Robert Buj

Advanced-level training cycle (ca: CFGS) in computer software engineering
(ca: DAI) - les Heures, technical academy (SPA)
Computer Science Engineer - University of Lleida (UDL), Lleida (SPA)
Training course in Handel-C & DK design suite - Celoxica Ltd., Abington (UK=
)
Training course in Xilinx EDK & Microblaze - Autonomous University of Madri=
d
(UAM), Madrid (SPA)
Postgraduate Master's degree in .NET Solutions - Open University of
Catalonia (UOC), Barcelona (SPA)
Postgraduate Master's degree in FOSS (Free and open source software)
(upcoming) - Open University of Catalonia (UOC), Barcelona (SPA)
Postgraduate Master's degree in CS (Computer Science) & CEN (Computer
engineering) (upcoming) - Open University of Catalonia (UOC), Barcelona
(SPA)

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nicht!
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code!
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<div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>Language teams may use Style Guides for t=
ranslation, and announce its usage in their own wiki:</div><ul><li>Using St=
yle Guides :=A0<a href=3D"http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nhome/Using+Style=
+Guides">http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nhome/Using+Style+Guides</a></li>
<li>Language Style Guides :=A0<a href=3D"http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nh=
ome/Language+Style+Guides">http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nhome/Language+S=
tyle+Guides</a></li></ul>















<div>PS: i.e. catalan=A0style guide:=A0<a href=3D"http://hub.opensolaris.or=
g/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/guia_estil">http://hub.opensola=
ris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/guia_estil</a></div><div>=
PS: i.e. common=A0translations into catalan :=A0<a href=3D"http://hub.opens=
olaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/llistat_termes">http:/=
/hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/llistat_term=
es</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Robert</div><div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Filippo Mineo=A0wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi Paul!<br>
I don&#39;t remember if you&#39;ve ever heard from me, since I&#39;ve been =
absent from the translation activities for a long time (at least more than =
a year for sure).<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
&gt; you have been doing all these in your spare time, in an unselfish mann=
er, not to mention that for languages we have only a single translator, you=
 are doing the work on your own, with no much help from others<br></div>

My situation is exactly the one you described. Unfortunately, I&#39;m the o=
nly active Italian translator... oh well, the last who was active. I joined=
 the NB l10n team in a period when the study wasn&#39;t as demanding as it =
is now.<div class=3D"im">
<br>
<br>
Constantin&#39;s ideas about the topics to be discussed are valid. However,=
 he wrote:<br>
&gt; Discuss about the internal teams functioning ( who is team leader , ho=
w many contributors by team, etc)<br></div>
but in many cases there is no &quot;internal team&quot;, since everything i=
s taken care of by a single person.<br>
<br>
If I had to explain briefly my opinion, I&#39;d say that the problem consis=
ts mainly in the lack of sponsors for this project. When a language has a b=
adly coordinated team (or even no team at all), the resulting translation i=
s consequently bad. This happens because, even assuming all individuals&#39=
; work quality is high, everyone follows his own lexicon and &quot;translat=
ion style&quot;, so that the result becomes different when the underlying t=
ranslator changes.<br>

Of course giving such local directives is not the global team&#39;s respons=
ibility. Anyway, returning to the main topic, many problems could be solved=
 if contributors where more (numerically) and more coordinated, so that the=
 project could count on a less discontinuous involvement.<br>

<br>
Although your meeting proposal is a praiseworty initiative, frankly I prefe=
r not to take on a commitment. Meanwhile, let&#39;s hear if there are other=
 suggestions.<br>
<br>
Hoping to get back active soon,<br>
arrivederci!<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
Filippo Mineo<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>FQN: Robert Anto=
ni Buj Gelonch<br>AKA: Robert Buj<br><br>Advanced-level training cycle (ca:=
 CFGS) in computer software engineering (ca: DAI) - les Heures, technical a=
cademy (SPA)<br>
Computer Science Engineer - University of Lleida (UDL), Lleida (SPA)<br>Tra=
ining course in Handel-C &amp; DK design suite - Celoxica Ltd., Abington (U=
K)<br>Training course in Xilinx EDK &amp; Microblaze - Autonomous Universit=
y of Madrid (UAM), Madrid (SPA)<br>
Postgraduate Master&#39;s degree in .NET Solutions - Open University of Cat=
alonia (UOC), Barcelona (SPA)<br>Postgraduate Master&#39;s degree in FOSS (=
Free and open source software)=20
(upcoming) - Open University of Catalonia (UOC), Barcelona (SPA)<br>
Postgraduate Master&#39;s degree in CS (Computer Science) &amp; CEN (Comput=
er engineering)=20
(upcoming) - Open University of Catalonia (UOC), Barcelona (SPA)<br>
<br>ca: M&#39;agradaria millorar el m=F3n, per=F2 D=E9u no em d=F3na el cod=
i font!<br>de: Ich w=FCrde gern die Welt verbessern, doch Gott gibt mir den=
 Quellcode nicht!<br>en: I would like to improve the world, but God didn&#3=
9;t give me the source code!<br>
es: Me gustar=EDa mejorar el mundo, pero Dios no me da el c=F3digo fuente!<=
br><br>gpg fingerprint =3D=A0DC2C C0E5 DD7C BB63 8775 AC67 5829 EBE1 9673 F=
CFD<br>
</div>

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