[TF-dev] Re: Call for ideas/topics - NetBeans community translation leads call

constantin drabo <[email protected]> Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:12:51 +0000
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Hi Filipo=2C=20
Your opinion is absolutely right.  If the localisation team wants to surviv=
e=2C it ought to be more agressive like Eclipse localisation team. Oracle a=
nd Netbeans Community must have a look on it.=20

Regards

Constantin

=AB La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit=E9=2C mais on ne passe pas sa vie =
enti=E8re dans un berceau. =BB
- Constantin  E. Tsiolkovski =2C p=E8re de l'astronautique  et de l'a=E9ros=
patiale modernes.


> Date: Wed=2C 3 Aug 2011 10:48:17 +0200
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [TF-dev] Re: Call for ideas/topics - NetBeans community translat=
ion leads call
>=20
> Hi Paul!
> I don't remember if you've ever heard from me=2C since I've been absent=20
> from the translation activities for a long time (at least more than a=20
> year for sure).
>=20
>  > you have been doing all these in your spare time=2C in an unselfish=20
> manner=2C not to mention that for languages we have only a single=20
> translator=2C you are doing the work on your own=2C with no much help fro=
m=20
> others
> My situation is exactly the one you described. Unfortunately=2C I'm the=20
> only active Italian translator... oh well=2C the last who was active. I=20
> joined the NB l10n team in a period when the study wasn't as demanding=20
> as it is now.
>=20
> Constantin's ideas about the topics to be discussed are valid. However=2C=
=20
> he wrote:
>  > Discuss about the internal teams functioning ( who is team leader =2C=
=20
> how many contributors by team=2C etc)
> but in many cases there is no "internal team"=2C since everything is take=
n=20
> care of by a single person.
>=20
> If I had to explain briefly my opinion=2C I'd say that the problem=20
> consists mainly in the lack of sponsors for this project. When a=20
> language has a badly coordinated team (or even no team at all)=2C the=20
> resulting translation is consequently bad. This happens because=2C even=20
> assuming all individuals' work quality is high=2C everyone follows his ow=
n=20
> lexicon and "translation style"=2C so that the result becomes different=20
> when the underlying translator changes.
> Of course giving such local directives is not the global team's=20
> responsibility. Anyway=2C returning to the main topic=2C many problems co=
uld=20
> be solved if contributors where more (numerically) and more coordinated=
=2C=20
> so that the project could count on a less discontinuous involvement.
>=20
> Although your meeting proposal is a praiseworty initiative=2C frankly I=20
> prefer not to take on a commitment. Meanwhile=2C let's hear if there are=
=20
> other suggestions.
>=20
> Hoping to get back active soon=2C
> arrivederci!
>=20
> Filippo Mineo
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Hi Filipo=2C <br>Your opinion is absolutely right.&nbsp=3B If the localisat=
ion team wants to survive=2C it ought to be more agressive like Eclipse loc=
alisation team. Oracle and Netbeans Community must have a look on it. <br><=
br>Regards<br><br>Constantin<br><br><span class=3D"EC_EC_EC_sg" style=3D"fo=
nt-weight:bold=3Bfont-style:italic">=AB La Terre est le berceau de l'humani=
t=E9=2C mais on ne passe pas sa vie enti=E8re dans un berceau. =BB<br>- Con=
stantin&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3BE. Tsiolkovski =2C p=E8re de l'astronautique&nbsp=3B=
 et de l'a=E9rospatiale modernes.</span><br><br><br><div>&gt=3B Date: Wed=
=2C 3 Aug 2011 10:48:17 +0200<br>&gt=3B From: [email protected]<br>&gt=3B=
 To: [email protected]<br>&gt=3B Subject: [TF-dev] Re: Call f=
or ideas/topics - NetBeans community translation leads call<br>&gt=3B <br>&=
gt=3B Hi Paul!<br>&gt=3B I don't remember if you've ever heard from me=2C s=
ince I've been absent <br>&gt=3B from the translation activities for a long=
 time (at least more than a <br>&gt=3B year for sure).<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B=
  &gt=3B you have been doing all these in your spare time=2C in an unselfis=
h <br>&gt=3B manner=2C not to mention that for languages we have only a sin=
gle <br>&gt=3B translator=2C you are doing the work on your own=2C with no =
much help from <br>&gt=3B others<br>&gt=3B My situation is exactly the one =
you described. Unfortunately=2C I'm the <br>&gt=3B only active Italian tran=
slator... oh well=2C the last who was active. I <br>&gt=3B joined the NB l1=
0n team in a period when the study wasn't as demanding <br>&gt=3B as it is =
now.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Constantin's ideas about the topics to be discuss=
ed are valid. However=2C <br>&gt=3B he wrote:<br>&gt=3B  &gt=3B Discuss abo=
ut the internal teams functioning ( who is team leader =2C <br>&gt=3B how m=
any contributors by team=2C etc)<br>&gt=3B but in many cases there is no "i=
nternal team"=2C since everything is taken <br>&gt=3B care of by a single p=
erson.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B If I had to explain briefly my opinion=2C I'd s=
ay that the problem <br>&gt=3B consists mainly in the lack of sponsors for =
this project. When a <br>&gt=3B language has a badly coordinated team (or e=
ven no team at all)=2C the <br>&gt=3B resulting translation is consequently=
 bad. This happens because=2C even <br>&gt=3B assuming all individuals' wor=
k quality is high=2C everyone follows his own <br>&gt=3B lexicon and "trans=
lation style"=2C so that the result becomes different <br>&gt=3B when the u=
nderlying translator changes.<br>&gt=3B Of course giving such local directi=
ves is not the global team's <br>&gt=3B responsibility. Anyway=2C returning=
 to the main topic=2C many problems could <br>&gt=3B be solved if contribut=
ors where more (numerically) and more coordinated=2C <br>&gt=3B so that the=
 project could count on a less discontinuous involvement.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=
=3B Although your meeting proposal is a praiseworty initiative=2C frankly I=
 <br>&gt=3B prefer not to take on a commitment. Meanwhile=2C let's hear if =
there are <br>&gt=3B other suggestions.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Hoping to get =
back active soon=2C<br>&gt=3B arrivederci!<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Filippo Min=
eo<br></div> 		 	   		  </div></body>
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