[TF-dev] Re: OpenCTI decommissioned

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Hi all, hi Paul...

Most of us had spent years in the translation project to make it available
even for people who don't speak english that well. What's happening now is
just... uhm how to say that... painful, as it is a deep stroke into out
hearts.

There were complaints when Oracle took over Sun, that Oracle doesn't really
like communities and their work for community projects, but it was also
said, Oracle has no problems using the results of such projects without ever
paying something back. I've always hoped this might change (at least a
little bit), but today I think, Oracle is just afraid of communities.

We (as translation community) do not really need that much, but even this
handful of requirements is not provided to us:

   - Clear communication of *what* happens *when* and *why* (e.g. release
   dates and procedures)
   - prompt answers (no, a delay of 5 days isn't prompt)
   - support on tools - just decommisioning a tool without an alternative is
   the same as no support at all
   - a pen or shirt from time to time

That's all a pitty and might not help nobody. :(

So, after a long fight with myself, I've decided to leave the german
translation team (which was - afaik - me only at the end).

Thanks to all those you've helped and supported us all over the years, who
took pride in working with a vibrant community, who made it possible to
provide translations to all the non-native speakers out there.
And some special thanks goes to: Ruth K., Masaki. K and Janice C.

Bye
J..e

P.S.: this e-mail thread has still answers pending... It's not the best
practice to delay answers or to sit 'em out.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Paul Duan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm sorry to tell you Oracle has decided to decommission OpenCTI for
> compliance reason. The NetBeans localization team will seek possible
> alternative way to support our community translation, we welcome any
> suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>

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<div>Hi all, hi Paul...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Most of us had spent years in the translation project to make it avail=
able even for people who don&#39;t speak english that well. What&#39;s happ=
ening now is just... uhm how to say that... painful, as it is a deep stroke=
 into out hearts.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>There were complaints when Oracle took over Sun, that Oracle doesn&#39=
;t really like communities and their work for community projects, but it wa=
s also said, Oracle has no problems using the results of such projects with=
out ever paying something back. I&#39;ve always hoped this might change (at=
 least a little bit), but today I think, Oracle is just afraid of communiti=
es.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>We (as translation community) do not really need that much, but even t=
his handful of requirements is not provided to us:</div>
<ul>
<li>Clear communication of <strong>what</strong> happens <strong>when</stro=
ng> and <strong>why</strong> (e.g. release dates and procedures)</li>
<li>prompt answers (no, a delay of 5 days isn&#39;t prompt)</li>
<li>support on tools - just decommisioning a tool without an alternative is=
 the same as no support at all</li>
<li>a pen or shirt from time to time</li></ul>
<div>That&#39;s all a pitty and might not help nobody. :(</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>So, after a long fight with myself, I&#39;ve decided to leave the germ=
an translation team (which was - afaik - me only at the end).</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Thanks to all those you&#39;ve helped and supported us all over the ye=
ars, who took pride in working with a vibrant community, who made it possib=
le to provide translations to all the non-native speakers out there.</div>

<div>And some special thanks goes to: Ruth K., Masaki. K and Janice C.</div=
>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Bye</div>
<div>J..e<br><br>P.S.: this e-mail thread has still answers pending... It&#=
39;s not the best practice to delay answers or to sit &#39;em out.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Paul Duan <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">jun-hui.duan@or=
acle.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Hi all,<br><br>I&#39;m sorry to =
tell you Oracle has decided to decommission OpenCTI for compliance reason. =
The NetBeans localization team will seek possible alternative way to suppor=
t our community translation, we welcome any suggestions.<br>
<br>Thanks,<br><font color=3D"#888888">Paul<br></font></blockquote></div><b=
r>

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