Re: Re: NB Windows/Panel system

Thanks again Tim.

I had a few applications coming up that would make use of the control.
One was a Java Mail Client.

Anyway ... i'll try and get a chance later in the week to build this
and see if i can get hello world happening... I'll post to nbdev on
what I achive/fail to achieve.

With regards to my comment about a control like this in mustang I
subsequently found out that there will be... in fact the team cited
the Netbeans UI as their source of inspiration for this new feature
and will apparently be working with the netbeans team on this.

Thanks for all the help again!


On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 00:07:07 -0800, Tim Boudreau <[email protected]> wrote:
> Gerry Steele wrote:
> > Thanks Tim,
> >
> > I wasn't aware you could use the netbeans as a platform.. I knew this
> > was a big bonus of eclipse for some time.
> 
> Sigh.  People were building serious apps on top of NetBeans years before
> Eclipse existed.  IBM's marketing $$ at work...
> 
> Anyway, here's a very incomplete list of folks using NB as a platform:
> http://www.netbeans.org/about/third-party.html
> 
> 
> > Might a similar widget make it's way into Mustang as a swing component?
> 
> If you mean the tab control, I don't know of any plans to do that.  If
> you want to use it as a standalone component (I know other folks are),
> let me know.  You can build the basic jar as follows:
> 
> cvs -d:pserver:[email protected]:/cvs
> cvs co core
> cd core/swing/tabcontrol
> ant -f build-standalone.xml beanjar
> ant javadoc
> 
> will get you the jar file + docs (I worked pretty hard to make the
> javadoc obscenely comprehensive).
> 
> Let me know if you have any troubles - and this conversation *really*
> belongs on nbdev, not nbui.
> 
> What sort of thing are you writing?  We could give better suggestions re
> what you could use or whether NB as a platform is something that would
> help you knowing that.
> 
> -Tim
> 
> 
> >
> > Gerry
> >
> > On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:15:13 -0800, Tim Boudreau <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Gerry Steele wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>I've recently adopted Netbeans as my Java IDE of choice of all the
> >>>various reasons. One of them is the very attractive and highly
> >>>intuitive UI design style used.
> >>>
> >>>I've tried looking through a lot of the current netbeans docs I can't
> >>>seem to find anything about using this same windowing system in other
> >>>applications... or indeed if it can be used. In fact I can't seem to
> >>>find very much on the implementation details at all.
> >>>
> >>>I am aware I could used the source but I would't have a clue were to start.
> >>>
> >>>Can anyone point me in the right direction??
> >>
> >>You probably want to ask this question on [email protected], which
> >>covers developing applications on NetBeans.
> >>
> >>The tab control which does the basics is buildable as a standalone
> >>library, but that doesn't get you persistence, drag and drop, etc (these
> >>are implemented through listeners on the controls).
> >>
> >>Underlying that is the NetBeans windowing system.  That's what
> >>implements the rest of the plumbing.  The API for it can be found in the
> >>package org.openide.windows;  the actual implementation is in the
> >>core/windows module - if you have a checkout of NetBeans sources, have a
> >>look in core/windows.
> >>
> >>But the easiest way to reuse all of this (and more) is to build your
> >>application on NetBeans (in other words, your app is NetBeans minus the
> >>IDE-specific modules, plus your modules which implement what you want).
> >>  This gets you menu/action and setting management and lots of other
> >>stuff that can save years of development time in terms of getting a
> >>large application up and running quickly.  Additionally there may be
> >>NetBeans modules you can reuse for your own purposes.
> >>
> >>The platform by itself is quite small and starts quickly.  For a brief
> >>overview, see
> >>http://www.netbeans.org/products/platform/
> >>
> >>-Tim
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 


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