Re: netbeans.org Home Page and l10ns

Maxym Mykhalchuk <[email protected]> Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:14:10 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.netbeans.webteam
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Jack,

> Ah, yes I see, and you're right.  Any suggestions ?  I'm not really
> sure how to change that.

Well, there's a lot of space there to make it more visible.
Just a few suggestions:

1. Currently this list expands only when your mouse is EXACTLY above
"Choose Language" combo, IMHO you should increase the space to the
whole empty space in the right corner. (maybe not all, but -10px not
to open it if the user goes in there for accident).

2. There's a module icon (left from the old design) of
translatedfiles:  http://translatedfiles.netbeans.org/module_icon.png
If redone to have a proper background color it looks exactly like the
picture that will draw more attention -- small yet very informative.

> I don't remember the procedure we followed for fr, but I think
> that if you supply a zip of html I can go ahead and create ru.nb.org for
> you.  It is mostly a formality I guess since you clearly have lots of
> _ru.html files on www.

Wow! I didn't know there's a http://fr.netbeans.org!
Actually not a lot of them at all (no more than 20 in total including
old Edges and information on old releases).
I have to think hard about it and prepare some index...

The problem remain:
If article translation is done, where to place it -- on a
$lang.netbeans.org site (then how to link from original to localized),
in the same folder as the original (then what's the purpose of
$lang.netbeans.org)?

   * Place near the original a _$lang page to redirect to $lang site
-- not really nice from user point of view

   * Publish a translation in testwww, and link from $lang site to it
-- not good because what's the separate site up to then?

   * Have a testwww->www crawler automatically look for translations
not only in the same directory, but also inside appropriate
directories in the $lang site -- good, but pretty complex, I suppose?

> Well not yet, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen! :-)  Once a
> $lang.netbeans.org site exists, I don't think there is any reason to do
> that, as a) that site's navigation should do it, and b) that site will
> have an auto-generated site map anyway.  

Got it.
Yes, sitemaps are good.

> So I guess you are suggesting
> this for _$lang.html content on www only ?  And maybe we could link to
> it from the www.netbeans.org/index_$lang.html page ?

Yes, something like that -- a site map of localized resources, 
Currently www sitemap shows flags
(http://www.netbeans.org/download/sitemaps/www_map.html). Great! But
it doesn't have separate sitemaps for localized-only resources,
language-by-language style -- that's what I'm suggesting.

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Maxym Mykhalchuk