Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

Charles Roth <[email protected]> Thu, 4 Jul 2019 10:47:07 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.tapestry.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Emmanuel:

Do you seriously NOT realize what is going on here?  YOU were the first 
person to start calling people names.  YOU are the one using "ad 
hominem" arguments about Tapestry users.  YOU are the one crying "Mom, 
he hit me back first!"

I actually AGREE with you that it's past time to move on from Tapestry.  
I'm a senior architect for a company with a large Tapestry app that has 
been engaged in exactly that direction for ~2 years. (And no, they chose 
Tapestry before I got there.)   But a million lines of code doesn't turn 
on a dime.  In the meantime, there are kind and thoughtful people on 
this list who are HELPING EACH OTHER.

But your overbearing, insulting messages destroy any validity to your 
message.  (Which is a real pity, because you are correct about the 
technology.)  You're not persecuted: you're whining. Don't believe me: 
read an expert, say "Uncle Bob" Martin ("Clean Coder") about how to work 
with PEOPLE.

On 7/4/2019 6:05 AM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote:
> Lance,
>
> I am not hating Tapestry, I am only a messenger preaching the good news
> that the world has moved on and left behind antiquated frameworks like
> Tapestry. Even the founder, Howard Lewis Ship, the captain of this Tapestry
> ship, has long left this sinking ship. He is now using other better and
> modern frameworks. Damn, he even used Wicket on his client's project.
> I am not surprised Tapestry cult followers like you always want to
> persecute the messenger by calling me names. I am sure you would thank me
> in the future for opening your eyes.
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:04 PM Lance Java
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Emmanuel Sowah - I think you deserve some form of long service award.
>> You've been hating on Tapestry for over 13 years now. Way to hold a grudge
>> dude!
>>
>> https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, 10:18 am Emmanuel Sowah, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Of course it's understandable that they are going to deprecate it. What
>>> kind of creatures are you still stuck to a failed and stone-age framework
>>> like Tapestry? Even the original creator, Howard Lewis Ship, has
>> abandoned
>>> it for better frameworks like React, Angular and Wicket. Guys, wake up
>> and
>>> stop wasting your time.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:46 PM Nicolas Bouillon <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if many of you are using the Tapestry plugins of IntellJ
>>> Ultimate.
>>>> I do and it's very handy to navigate fastly between components and for
>>> code
>>>> completion in templates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2019/06/plugin-deprecations-in-intellij-idea-v2019-2/
>>>> Tapestry is my favorite framework, and I haven't found any replacement
>>> with
>>>> the killing features such as Live Class Reloading (natively) and
>>> excellent
>>>> error reporting.
>>>>
>>>> Keep up the good work.
>>>>
>>>> Nicolas.
>>>>

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