Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

Technologies such as Tapestry are not more deprecated than Wicket =
neither worst. Wicked has its benefits, but also quite a lot of =
weakness. Wicket is very verbose and annoying to refactor, I can=E2=80=99t=
 see any advantage of Wicket over Tapestry.=20
Regarding new technologies, there are plenty of new technologies, new =
doesn=E2=80=99t mean good :) I enjoy ajax application, micros service =
architecture, but for data entry application they don=E2=80=99t ad any =
value.=20
Ajax application, whatever framework, you use are a nightmare to debug =
who you have 100K+ lines of code=E2=80=A6 javascript is just another =
scripting language used by novice programmer that thinks they are kings =
of the world because they manage to write 3 lines of code. Every =
framework has its use cases, Tapestry is good at rapid development and =
prototyping application. It mixes well with ajax frameworks. Vaadin is =
also cool :)=20
Just don=E2=80=99t use it if you don=E2=80=99t like it=E2=80=A6=20
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> Le 4 juil. 2019 =C3=A0 16:47, Charles Roth <[email protected]> a =
=C3=A9crit :
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> Emmanuel:
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> Do you seriously NOT realize what is going on here?  YOU were the =
first person to start calling people names.  YOU are the one using "ad =
hominem" arguments about Tapestry users.  YOU are the one crying "Mom, =
he hit me back first!"
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> I actually AGREE with you that it's past time to move on from =
Tapestry.  I'm a senior architect for a company with a large Tapestry =
app that has been engaged in exactly that direction for ~2 years. (And =
no, they chose Tapestry before I got there.)   But a million lines of =
code doesn't turn on a dime.  In the meantime, there are kind and =
thoughtful people on this list who are HELPING EACH OTHER.
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> But your overbearing, insulting messages destroy any validity to your =
message.  (Which is a real pity, because you are correct about the =
technology.)  You're not persecuted: you're whining. Don't believe me: =
read an expert, say "Uncle Bob" Martin ("Clean Coder") about how to work =
with PEOPLE.
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> On 7/4/2019 6:05 AM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote:
>> Lance,
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>> I am not hating Tapestry, I am only a messenger preaching the good =
news
>> that the world has moved on and left behind antiquated frameworks =
like
>> Tapestry. Even the founder, Howard Lewis Ship, the captain of this =
Tapestry
>> ship, has long left this sinking ship. He is now using other better =
and
>> modern frameworks. Damn, he even used Wicket on his client's project.
>> I am not surprised Tapestry cult followers like you always want to
>> persecute the messenger by calling me names. I am sure you would =
thank me
>> in the future for opening your eyes.
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>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:04 PM Lance Java
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Emmanuel Sowah - I think you deserve some form of long service =
award.
>>> You've been hating on Tapestry for over 13 years now. Way to hold a =
grudge
>>> dude!
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>>> https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
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>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, 10:18 am Emmanuel Sowah, <[email protected]> =
wrote:
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>>>> Of course it's understandable that they are going to deprecate it. =
What
>>>> kind of creatures are you still stuck to a failed and stone-age =
framework
>>>> like Tapestry? Even the original creator, Howard Lewis Ship, has
>>> abandoned
>>>> it for better frameworks like React, Angular and Wicket. Guys, wake =
up
>>> and
>>>> stop wasting your time.
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>>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:46 PM Nicolas Bouillon =
<[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> Hi,
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>>>>> Not sure if many of you are using the Tapestry plugins of IntellJ
>>>> Ultimate.
>>>>> I do and it's very handy to navigate fastly between components and =
for
>>>> code
>>>>> completion in templates.
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>>> =
https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2019/06/plugin-deprecations-in-intellij-id=
ea-v2019-2/
>>>>> Tapestry is my favorite framework, and I haven't found any =
replacement
>>>> with
>>>>> the killing features such as Live Class Reloading (natively) and
>>>> excellent
>>>>> error reporting.
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>>>>> Keep up the good work.
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>>>>> Nicolas.
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