Re: Checking in on the project

Well, I can't guarantee that it is at "project ready" status yet.  Still 
plenty to do. I would consider this more at the Alpha level than Beta.

I'll send the link when it is ready...

Pete


Richard Houston wrote:

>That would be great! I have a project that we could really use this for.
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>On Mon, October 17, 2005 10:36 am, Pete Helgren wrote:
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>>Richard,
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>>I'll see if I can get a site up with some info and with a download and
>>setup instructions.
>>
>>Pete
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>>Richard Houston wrote:
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>>>Hey Peter,
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>>>
>>>Your right, it is way more then just htmling the green screen, but in
>>>it's most basic form that is one of the things it can do. We had to do
>>>several labs at the tech preview I was talking about and I was able to
>>>get a bunch of the "cool" HATS features going and I am not a programmer
>>>at all. Licensing is not all that bad as well if you already are using
>>>WebSphere.
>>>
>>>
>>>For my client we are looking at just what web5250 is doing. Can I get a
>>> copy of the latest code and a quick how to set it up?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Best regards,
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>>>On Fri, October 14, 2005 2:37 pm, Pete Helgren wrote:
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>>>>Richard,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>HATS and Web5250 are a little different from one another.  Web5250 is
>>>> more like iSeries Access for Web, which I finally saw at Common last
>>>>month in Orlando.  Web5250 presents a "green screen" in a browser,
>>>>pretty much all.  Now, iSeries Access for Web does a heckofalot more
>>>>than that, but basically, that is it.
>>>>
>>>>Screen shot like so: (I can't remember if they will display on the
>>>>list or not so I'll try it):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That is really all the Web5250 is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I need to get a live link established and get my website updated to
>>>>show where this project is.  But, the concept is 5250 in a browser.
>>>>HATS (I
>>>>think) is more "invasive" in the look and feel area.
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Richard Houston wrote:
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>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Just wanted to chiming on this topic.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I was at a proof of technologies at IBM here on HATS
>>>>>http://www-306.ibm.com/software/webservers/hats/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It basically turns the 5250 screens into pure HTML. The development
>>>>>env only works on windows right now which suck for m 400 based
>>>>>client as they run Linux on the desktop. Nice this about hats is
>>>>>that there is no code changes required on the 400 side. You can
>>>>>customize the layout and such as well so it can look nothing like
>>>>>your green screen apps at all. Kind of
>>>>>cool.
>>>>>
>>>>>I, personally, would like to see some sort of OSS version out there
>>>>>and I
>>>>>think this is what web5250 we aiming for. Maybe with enough effort
>>>>>web5250 could do the same. Just a thought.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Best regards,
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>>>>>On Fri, October 14, 2005 9:48 am, Pete Helgren wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>>Thanks Wim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This sounds "exactly" like what I had in mind a couple of years
>>>>>>ago. Seems to me that the "mapping" concept would be fairly
>>>>>>straight-forward (probably a lot harder to do than it sounded...)
>>>>>>This
>>>>>>is very cool and Swing would be a good fit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Have you looked at Java Server Faces at all?  I saw a demo of a
>>>>>>JSF
>>>>>>app that looked very "Swing-like" but was all HTML and mostly a
>>>>>>server side implementation.  I have been meaning to take a look at
>>>>>>it in more detail and see how difficult the coding is.  The
>>>>>>JSP/Struts/Tiles
>>>>>>approach has always been too complex to me and JSF *seemed* to
>>>>>>simplify that.  I need to take a look at it soon but it might
>>>>>>give you a richer-looking UI without the client side hassles of
>>>>>>Swing.  Mapping
>>>>>>to JSF components might be a possibility.  I'll look into it when
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>have a chance to see what you are doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>One other idea I had in the "screen scraping" area was a "static"
>>>>>> mapping option that would allow you to actually change the
>>>>>>component layout at the client end.  Rather than doing the
>>>>>>transformation on the fly, you could create "map file" and use
>>>>>>that instead.  Not sure how to implement that though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for the information on the code pages and the good news on
>>>>>>the code page support in JT400.  That should take care of it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look forward to hearing more about the screen scraper....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pete Helgren
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>Hello Pete,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>great to hear some acitivity from this corner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The screenscraper works for one of our customers and is
>>>>>>>tailored to their screen layouts. Still have to do some bugfixes
>>>>>>>for them shortly, so I can send some screenshots on the list to
>>>>>>>give an idea to what it looks like. We were now discussing
>>>>>>>internally whether we were going to apply the scraper to our own
>>>>>>>screens, or build some kind of Swing gui components on top of
>>>>>>>the stream: a table for a subfile, a label for static text, a
>>>>>>>textfield for fields etc. The idea is to be able to build swing
>>>>>>>panels that read and write their data from the screen. The
>>>>>>>buttons and menu's would call function keys etc to do screen
>>>>>>>transitions and move to the next swing panel. What do you think?
>>>>>>>For us it is just to be
>>>>>>>able to quickly roll out GUIs until we find the time to
>>>>>>>reengineer the apps in full GUI apps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The 1200 codepage is provided in JT400. However I can not find
>>>>>>>the 1208. I wonder however if those are supported if they're not
>>>>>>>in de toolbox. Or are the numbers provider here not the AS/400
>>>>>>>numberings?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>wim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>*Pete Helgren <[email protected]>*
>>>>>>>Sent by: [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>14/10/2005 15:41
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>>>>>>>To
>>>>>>>TN5250J List <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>cc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Subject
>>>>>>>[Tn5250j-general] Checking in on the project
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Gee....been kinda quiet around here.  Must mean we are all
>>>>>>>gainfully employed and busy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A couple of questions (just to blow the dust of the list!):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. Wim, a while back you talked about a screenscraper project
>>>>>>>you were involved in that used tn5250j components.  Where are
>>>>>>>you on that?  I'd love to know what you are doing in that area
>>>>>>>since I think tn5250j has some powerful tools in that would be
>>>>>>>useful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>2. Also, in general, how hard is it to add code page support,
>>>>>>>specifically for 1200 and 1208?  There was a post in
>>>>>>>midrange.com from someone looking for an emulator that supported
>>>>>>>those code pages.  I didn't see it in the list of supported code
>>>>>>>pages (not in JT400 either).
>>>>>>>I'd like to help this guy out if I could, I just don't know
>>>>>>>how difficult it is to support other code pages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pete Helgren
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>P.S. Kenneth are you out there ?  How is it going?
>>>>>>>
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