Re: Checking in on the project

No problem. We have a Java developer her who got the code you posted a few
months ago working and I am sure we can help out getting things ironed
out.

We found a few issue and are interested in seeing the newest version.
Maybe our Java guy can give you a had with some coding.




Best regards,
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On Tue, October 18, 2005 11:19 am, Pete Helgren wrote:
> Well, I can't guarantee that it is at "project ready" status yet.  Still
> plenty to do. I would consider this more at the Alpha level than Beta.
>
> I'll send the link when it is ready...
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> Richard Houston wrote:
>
>
>> That would be great! I have a project that we could really use this
>> for.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
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>> | Richard Houston                  .^.     |
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>>
>>
>> On Mon, October 17, 2005 10:36 am, Pete Helgren wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Richard,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll see if I can get a site up with some info and with a download
>>> and setup instructions.
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Houston wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey Peter,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your right, it is way more then just htmling the green screen, but
>>>> in it's most basic form that is one of the things it can do. We had
>>>> to do several labs at the tech preview I was talking about and I was
>>>> able to get a bunch of the "cool" HATS features going and I am not a
>>>> programmer at all. Licensing is not all that bad as well if you
>>>> already are using WebSphere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For my client we are looking at just what web5250 is doing. Can I
>>>> get a copy of the latest code and a quick how to set it up?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> +------------------------------------------+
>>>> | Richard Houston                  .^.     |
>>>> | R.L.H.  Consulting               /V\     |
>>>> | E-Mail  <[email protected]>    /(   )\   |
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, October 14, 2005 2:37 pm, Pete Helgren wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Richard,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HATS and Web5250 are a little different from one another.
>>>>> Web5250 is
>>>>> more like iSeries Access for Web, which I finally saw at Common
>>>>> last month in Orlando.  Web5250 presents a "green screen" in a
>>>>> browser, pretty much all.  Now, iSeries Access for Web does a
>>>>> heckofalot more than that, but basically, that is it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Screen shot like so: (I can't remember if they will display on
>>>>> the list or not so I'll try it):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is really all the Web5250 is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to get a live link established and get my website updated
>>>>> to show where this project is.  But, the concept is 5250 in a
>>>>> browser. HATS (I
>>>>> think) is more "invasive" in the look and feel area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Houston wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wanted to chiming on this topic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was at a proof of technologies at IBM here on HATS
>>>>>> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/webservers/hats/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It basically turns the 5250 screens into pure HTML. The
>>>>>> development env only works on windows right now which suck for m
>>>>>> 400 based
>>>>>> client as they run Linux on the desktop. Nice this about hats is
>>>>>>  that there is no code changes required on the 400 side. You
>>>>>> can customize the layout and such as well so it can look nothing
>>>>>> like your green screen apps at all. Kind of cool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I, personally, would like to see some sort of OSS version out
>>>>>> there and I think this is what web5250 we aiming for. Maybe with
>>>>>> enough effort web5250 could do the same. Just a thought.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> +------------------------------------------+
>>>>>> | Richard Houston                  .^.     |
>>>>>> | R.L.H.  Consulting               /V\     |
>>>>>> | E-Mail  <[email protected]>    /(   )\   |
>>>>>> | WWW     <www.rlhc.net>          ^^-^^    |
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, October 14, 2005 9:48 am, Pete Helgren wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Wim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This sounds "exactly" like what I had in mind a couple of
>>>>>>> years ago. Seems to me that the "mapping" concept would be
>>>>>>> fairly straight-forward (probably a lot harder to do than it
>>>>>>> sounded...) This
>>>>>>> is very cool and Swing would be a good fit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you looked at Java Server Faces at all?  I saw a demo of
>>>>>>> a JSF
>>>>>>> app that looked very "Swing-like" but was all HTML and mostly
>>>>>>> a server side implementation.  I have been meaning to take a
>>>>>>> look at it in more detail and see how difficult the coding is.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> JSP/Struts/Tiles
>>>>>>> approach has always been too complex to me and JSF *seemed* to
>>>>>>>  simplify that.  I need to take a look at it soon but it
>>>>>>> might give you a richer-looking UI without the client side
>>>>>>> hassles of Swing.  Mapping
>>>>>>> to JSF components might be a possibility.  I'll look into it
>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>> have a chance to see what you are doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One other idea I had in the "screen scraping" area was a
>>>>>>> "static"
>>>>>>> mapping option that would allow you to actually change the
>>>>>>> component layout at the client end.  Rather than doing the
>>>>>>> transformation on the fly, you could create "map file" and
>>>>>>> use that instead.  Not sure how to implement that though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the information on the code pages and the good
>>>>>>> news on the code page support in JT400.  That should take care
>>>>>>> of it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look forward to hearing more about the screen scraper....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pete Helgren
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Pete,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> great to hear some acitivity from this corner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The screenscraper works for one of our customers and is
>>>>>>>> tailored to their screen layouts. Still have to do some
>>>>>>>> bugfixes for them shortly, so I can send some screenshots on
>>>>>>>> the list to give an idea to what it looks like. We were now
>>>>>>>> discussing internally whether we were going to apply the
>>>>>>>> scraper to our own screens, or build some kind of Swing gui
>>>>>>>> components on top of the stream: a table for a subfile, a
>>>>>>>> label for static text, a textfield for fields etc. The idea
>>>>>>>> is to be able to build swing panels that read and write
>>>>>>>> their data from the screen. The buttons and menu's would
>>>>>>>> call function keys etc to do screen transitions and move to
>>>>>>>> the next swing panel. What do you think? For us it is just
>>>>>>>> to be able to quickly roll out GUIs until we find the time
>>>>>>>> to reengineer the apps in full GUI apps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The 1200 codepage is provided in JT400. However I can not
>>>>>>>> find the 1208. I wonder however if those are supported if
>>>>>>>> they're not in de toolbox. Or are the numbers provider here
>>>>>>>> not the AS/400 numberings?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> wim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Pete Helgren <[email protected]>*
>>>>>>>> Sent by: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 14/10/2005 15:41
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>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gee....been kinda quiet around here.  Must mean we are all
>>>>>>>> gainfully employed and busy?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A couple of questions (just to blow the dust of the list!):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Wim, a while back you talked about a screenscraper
>>>>>>>> project you were involved in that used tn5250j components.
>>>>>>>> Where are
>>>>>>>> you on that?  I'd love to know what you are doing in that
>>>>>>>> area since I think tn5250j has some powerful tools in that
>>>>>>>> would be useful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. Also, in general, how hard is it to add code page
>>>>>>>> support, specifically for 1200 and 1208?  There was a post
>>>>>>>> in midrange.com from someone looking for an emulator that
>>>>>>>> supported those code pages.  I didn't see it in the list of
>>>>>>>> supported code pages (not in JT400 either). I'd like to help
>>>>>>>> this guy out if I could, I just don't know how difficult it
>>>>>>>> is to support other code pages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pete Helgren
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P.S. Kenneth are you out there ?  How is it going?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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