Re: Checking in on the project
Pete Helgren <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.java.tn5250j.general |
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I. don't think there have been many changes since then (if any). I can always use the help! I'll figure out how to get a CVS going so we can keep the project current. Thanks, Pete Richard Houston wrote: >No problem. We have a Java developer her who got the code you posted a few >months ago working and I am sure we can help out getting things ironed >out. > >We found a few issue and are interested in seeing the newest version. >Maybe our Java guy can give you a had with some coding. > > > > >Best regards, >+------------------------------------------+ >| Richard Houston .^. | >| R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | >| E-Mail <[email protected]> /( )\ | >| WWW <www.rlhc.net> ^^-^^ | >+------------------------------------------+ > > >On Tue, October 18, 2005 11:19 am, Pete Helgren wrote: > > >>Well, I can't guarantee that it is at "project ready" status yet. Still >>plenty to do. I would consider this more at the Alpha level than Beta. >> >>I'll send the link when it is ready... >> >> >>Pete >> >> >> >>Richard Houston wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>That would be great! I have a project that we could really use this >>>for. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Best regards, >>>+------------------------------------------+ >>>| Richard Houston .^. | >>>| R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | >>>| E-Mail <[email protected]> /( )\ | >>>| WWW <www.rlhc.net> ^^-^^ | >>>+------------------------------------------+ >>> >>> >>> >>>On Mon, October 17, 2005 10:36 am, Pete Helgren wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Richard, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I'll see if I can get a site up with some info and with a download >>>>and setup instructions. >>>> >>>>Pete >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Richard Houston wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hey Peter, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Your right, it is way more then just htmling the green screen, but >>>>>in it's most basic form that is one of the things it can do. We had >>>>>to do several labs at the tech preview I was talking about and I was >>>>>able to get a bunch of the "cool" HATS features going and I am not a >>>>>programmer at all. Licensing is not all that bad as well if you >>>>>already are using WebSphere. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>For my client we are looking at just what web5250 is doing. Can I >>>>>get a copy of the latest code and a quick how to set it up? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Best regards, >>>>>+------------------------------------------+ >>>>>| Richard Houston .^. | >>>>>| R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | >>>>>| E-Mail <[email protected]> /( )\ | >>>>>| WWW <www.rlhc.net> ^^-^^ | >>>>>+------------------------------------------+ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Fri, October 14, 2005 2:37 pm, Pete Helgren wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Richard, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>HATS and Web5250 are a little different from one another. >>>>>>Web5250 is >>>>>>more like iSeries Access for Web, which I finally saw at Common >>>>>>last month in Orlando. Web5250 presents a "green screen" in a >>>>>>browser, pretty much all. Now, iSeries Access for Web does a >>>>>>heckofalot more than that, but basically, that is it. >>>>>> >>>>>>Screen shot like so: (I can't remember if they will display on >>>>>>the list or not so I'll try it): >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>That is really all the Web5250 is. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I need to get a live link established and get my website updated >>>>>>to show where this project is. But, the concept is 5250 in a >>>>>>browser. HATS (I >>>>>>think) is more "invasive" in the look and feel area. >>>>>> >>>>>>Pete >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Richard Houston wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Just wanted to chiming on this topic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I was at a proof of technologies at IBM here on HATS >>>>>>>http://www-306.ibm.com/software/webservers/hats/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It basically turns the 5250 screens into pure HTML. The >>>>>>>development env only works on windows right now which suck for m >>>>>>>400 based >>>>>>>client as they run Linux on the desktop. Nice this about hats is >>>>>>> that there is no code changes required on the 400 side. You >>>>>>>can customize the layout and such as well so it can look nothing >>>>>>>like your green screen apps at all. Kind of cool. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I, personally, would like to see some sort of OSS version out >>>>>>>there and I think this is what web5250 we aiming for. Maybe with >>>>>>>enough effort web5250 could do the same. Just a thought. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Best regards, >>>>>>>+------------------------------------------+ >>>>>>>| Richard Houston .^. | >>>>>>>| R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | >>>>>>>| E-Mail <[email protected]> /( )\ | >>>>>>>| WWW <www.rlhc.net> ^^-^^ | >>>>>>>+------------------------------------------+ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Fri, October 14, 2005 9:48 am, Pete Helgren wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks Wim. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>This sounds "exactly" like what I had in mind a couple of >>>>>>>>years ago. Seems to me that the "mapping" concept would be >>>>>>>>fairly straight-forward (probably a lot harder to do than it >>>>>>>>sounded...) This >>>>>>>>is very cool and Swing would be a good fit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Have you looked at Java Server Faces at all? I saw a demo of >>>>>>>>a JSF >>>>>>>>app that looked very "Swing-like" but was all HTML and mostly >>>>>>>>a server side implementation. I have been meaning to take a >>>>>>>>look at it in more detail and see how difficult the coding is. >>>>>>>>The >>>>>>>>JSP/Struts/Tiles >>>>>>>>approach has always been too complex to me and JSF *seemed* to >>>>>>>> simplify that. I need to take a look at it soon but it >>>>>>>>might give you a richer-looking UI without the client side >>>>>>>>hassles of Swing. Mapping >>>>>>>>to JSF components might be a possibility. I'll look into it >>>>>>>>when I >>>>>>>>have a chance to see what you are doing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>One other idea I had in the "screen scraping" area was a >>>>>>>>"static" >>>>>>>>mapping option that would allow you to actually change the >>>>>>>>component layout at the client end. Rather than doing the >>>>>>>>transformation on the fly, you could create "map file" and >>>>>>>>use that instead. Not sure how to implement that though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks for the information on the code pages and the good >>>>>>>>news on the code page support in JT400. That should take care >>>>>>>>of it! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Look forward to hearing more about the screen scraper.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Pete Helgren >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hello Pete, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>great to hear some acitivity from this corner. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The screenscraper works for one of our customers and is >>>>>>>>>tailored to their screen layouts. Still have to do some >>>>>>>>>bugfixes for them shortly, so I can send some screenshots on >>>>>>>>>the list to give an idea to what it looks like. We were now >>>>>>>>>discussing internally whether we were going to apply the >>>>>>>>>scraper to our own screens, or build some kind of Swing gui >>>>>>>>>components on top of the stream: a table for a subfile, a >>>>>>>>>label for static text, a textfield for fields etc. The idea >>>>>>>>>is to be able to build swing panels that read and write >>>>>>>>>their data from the screen. The buttons and menu's would >>>>>>>>>call function keys etc to do screen transitions and move to >>>>>>>>>the next swing panel. What do you think? For us it is just >>>>>>>>>to be able to quickly roll out GUIs until we find the time >>>>>>>>>to reengineer the apps in full GUI apps. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The 1200 codepage is provided in JT400. However I can not >>>>>>>>>find the 1208. I wonder however if those are supported if >>>>>>>>>they're not in de toolbox. Or are the numbers provider here >>>>>>>>>not the AS/400 numberings? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>>>wim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>*Pete Helgren <[email protected]>* >>>>>>>>>Sent by: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>14/10/2005 15:41 >>>>>>>>>Please respond to >>>>>>>>>[email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>To >>>>>>>>>TN5250J List <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>cc >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Subject >>>>>>>>>[Tn5250j-general] Checking in on the project >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Gee....been kinda quiet around here. Must mean we are all >>>>>>>>>gainfully employed and busy? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>A couple of questions (just to blow the dust of the list!): >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>1. Wim, a while back you talked about a screenscraper >>>>>>>>>project you were involved in that used tn5250j components. >>>>>>>>>Where are >>>>>>>>>you on that? I'd love to know what you are doing in that >>>>>>>>>area since I think tn5250j has some powerful tools in that >>>>>>>>>would be useful. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>2. Also, in general, how hard is it to add code page >>>>>>>>>support, specifically for 1200 and 1208? There was a post >>>>>>>>>in midrange.com from someone looking for an emulator that >>>>>>>>>supported those code pages. I didn't see it in the list of >>>>>>>>>supported code pages (not in JT400 either). I'd like to help >>>>>>>>>this guy out if I could, I just don't know how difficult it >>>>>>>>>is to support other code pages. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Pete Helgren >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>P.S. Kenneth are you out there ? 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