Re: selectable model discussion

Charles Goodwin <[email protected]> Sat, 03 Jan 2004 03:19:11 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.xwt.widgets
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LOL!  So much from my great English skills! ;)

Having said that, it now looks fairly obvious and I'm not sure why I
misunderstood it in the first place.  I'll blame it on a bad hair day. 
Anyway, like I said, I'm not overly concerned over the naming as long as
it's 1) correct and 2) the consensus.  It's the mechanism that I'm
bothered about.

I'm trying to think of whether or not it is imperative that anything
other than the selected set and the 'most recently selected' be
available - all the instances I could think of that would want
'unselection' (a verb! confusing!) notification could operate happily by
trapping each individual member's 'selected' property.  Any other info
can be derived from the selected set and the 'selection' (back to a
noun!) so perhaps my original misgivings were unecessary.

So we have:

group       vs   last selected
------------------------------
selected[]       selection
selectedset[]    lastselected
                 current
                 selected

Who knows. :)  I'm sure we'll think of something appropriate in the
meantime.  I'm just gonna forget about it and go with selected[] and
lastselected for the time being since working code is more imperative
than finalising naming.

- Charlie

On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 02:13, Tupshin Harper wrote:
> David Crawshaw wrote:
>  > On 03/01/2004, at 11:14 AM, Tupshin Harper wrote:
>  >
>  >> For me, neither has a strong singular vs plural connotation.
>  >> 'selected' implies  "that which is currently selected", and
>  >> 'selection' implies "that which is currently being (or has most
>  >> recently been) operated on".
>  >
>  > selected - past participle verb - "a past action"
> 
> This is exactly why I called the terms ambiguous. Selected also is an
> adjective "chosen in preference to another" which perfectly
> characterizes the set of widgets in the group that we are trying to
> identify. It is perfectly reasonable to identify to identify a set by
> a descriptive adjective.
> 
>  > selection - noun - "a thing"
> 
> Contrary to my earlier assertion of no plurality connotations,
> "selection" actually has some pretty strong indications of
> singularity. Look at the examples here:
> http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn2.0?stage=1&word=selection
> and note that they all describe choosing one item from a set.

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